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where did chagall flee to? Kingturtle 22:36, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] birth-place

Marc was born in Vitebsk (Віцебск) city. Now the city is in Republic Belarus. At Chagal time they (both the city and Belarus) belonged to Russian Imperia. I think, it's correct to put:

--ZmiLa 13:13, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't agree with the Segal part. His name was Shagalov, and it later became Chagall. It was never Segal. JackofOz 03:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I believe the name Segal is accurate and should be restored. According to this review of a recent biography from JBooks and these notes from an exhibition of his etchings, Chagall was born Segal. This Yiddish name was then Russianized into Shagalov (the composition of his Russian given names, Moshe + the patronymic Zakharovich, seems to be a translation of his Hebrew name, which would most likely have been Moshe ben Zechariah...), before finally evolving into the French-sounding Chagall. Defrosted 07:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

We need to say what his legal name was at the time of his birth. With the 3 versions we have at the moment, I'm still confused.

  • Maybe Segal was his family's traditional Jewish name, but if the law required a Russianised name, then that was the name he had according to the law. We should give prominence to that. We currently give 2 versions of the Russian name, Шагалаў (= Šahałaŭ), and Shagalov. Which one is it?
    The former version is Belarusian not Russian. The Russian spelling is Shagalov (Cyrillic: Шагалов). --Ghirla -трёп- 10:54, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Or is it the case that his birth name was Segal, and only later became Russianised? If so, we should say that. JackofOz 10:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
    Russian Wiki gives his official surname as Segalov (Cyrillic: Сегалов). Isn't it confusing? --Ghirla -трёп- 10:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Virginia Haggard

Curious that Virginia Haggard was not mentioned in the article. She was his companion and had a child with him. Source: "My Life with Chagall: Seven Years of Plenty" by Virginia Haggard.

(The above unsigned comment was posted by User:24.84.169.31 at 02:50, 29 November 2005).

It's curious all over. (84.193.155.3 11:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC))


[edit] Chagall Foundation ?

Is there a Chagall Foundation a group which owns the rights andso forth?

-jrj


Don't know if they "own the rights" however the Comité Marc Chagall in Paris is the only authenticator of his works. ITFish 15:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

--Chagallgolem (talk) 09:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC) Le comité Marc Chagall 35, quai de l'horloge 75001 Paris The commitee deliver certificat of authenticity only for paintings, gouaches and drawings, not for identification for lithographs, etchings and posters (graphic works). For the graphic work of Chagall, veru useful site : http://www.chagall.fr on line complete catalogue of the printed graphic work (2000 images) and expert advices for Chagall's lithographs, etchingsa nd woodcuts —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chagallgolem (talk • contribs) 09:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Symbolism in Chagall's work

Chagall himself denies intended symbolism in his works, why post a list of his supposed meanings? That should be left purely to each viewer to interpret as it's not the artist's original intent.

"If a symbol should be discovered in a painting of mine, it was not my intention. It is a result I did not seek. It is something that may be found afterwards, and which can be interpreted according to taste." --Marc Chagall

Francesca1881 03:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, Francesca1881. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cantkant (talk • contribs) 10:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name

The are some inconsitencies with his name.

The Russian name given in the introduction in Cyrillic and transliterated is "Mark Shagal". But the Belarusian is "Moisha Shagalow". Later in the Biography section it says he was born "Moishe Shagal", which was rendered as "Mark Shagalov" in the Russian language. Clearly there are some mix-ups here.

Basically Moishe and Moisha are the Russian and Belarusian variants respectively of the name Moses. Shagalov is the Russian spelling of his surname Shagalow is the Belarusian spelling of his surname. Shagal was the Yiddish variant.

Now, as far as I'm aware, he would have been known as Shagalov / Shagalow officially in the Russian Empire, but as Shagal among the Jewish community there. I assume he used the Yiddish variant upon leaving the Russian Empire. The problem then is after he became famous in France, his name re-entered the Russian language as Shagal (without the -ov suffix). I am just making educated guesses here, does anyone know for sure if this is correct and correct the article as appropriate. 86.15.31.62 (talk) 18:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] La Mariée

Does anyone have a confirmed source for the year of origin of La Mariée? Its article, image and the List of Chagall's artwork have it at 1950, but an editor recently tried to change the year to 1927. I did a Google search, and while some entries came up for 1950, others (including many on eBay) came up with 1927. I haven't found a source I feel is reliable or "official" and I've even tried "looking inside" some Marc Chagall books on Amazon.com. Whatever the correct answer, we should provide a reliable and verifiable source to prevent future inquiries. — TAnthonyTalk 22:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] His Nationality

Since Belarus was a part of Russia and Soviet Union during all his lifetime, and he was also a jew not an ethnic belarrusian, I think his first nationality must appear as russian.85.243.69.53 (talk) 15:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)