Talk:Manchu language
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This article is somewhat redundant with the extensive "language" paragraph of the Manchu article. olivier 07:57 Feb 3, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] tungusic languages
The Manchu language is not the only extant representative of the Tungusic branch of the "Altaic" family. The Tungusic languages are traditionally grouped into a Northern branch, formed by Evenk (10.000), Even (7.000), Neghidal (150) and Solon (15.000), and a southern one, formed by Udehe (500), Oroch (150), Ulch (1.100), Orok (60), Nanai (6.000) and Manchu with Sibo(10.000): the fomer 5 languages form the Amur subbranch, while the later two form the Manchu subbranch. The very approximate number of speakers is provided in brackets. Gianni
- I heard Sibo people like to say that Sibo != Manchu; I know that there are Sibo-Manchu dictionaries. I didn't know that many people still spoke Evenki and Solon though. Mgmei 05:47, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Sibe is simply an innovative dialect of the Manchu language. There are still a small and dwindling number of elderly people in northeastern China who speak other Manchu dialects as well, such as the dialects of Aigun, Sanjiazi, Siji, etc. --149.159.143.48 17:47, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
The section on grammar is so frightfully inaccurate that it should be removed until someone can write something new. There are at most six cases in Manchu (Nominative, Accusative, Genitive (=Instrumental), Dative (=Locative), Ablative and Prolative (debated)). The other "cases" listed are mostly non-productive derivational suffixes, a few of which may have originated as case markers in an earlier stage of the language, but are now fossilized. Some of the "cases" listed do not occur in Manchu at all, (such as the "indef. ablative", "in. accusative", "translative"), and the suffixes given for these are not listed in any Manchu grammar I have ever seen. --140.247.10.171 21:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Windows supports
Windows Vista supports Manchu rendering. On my XP machine, the script is messed up. On Vista, it looks just like the horizontal version of the picture. --Voidvector 09:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
