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Ksyrie, I have noticed--Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 23:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC) that you have been deleting my contributions. I don't see any "discrimination", as you have put it, since everything I wrote is backed by valid sources. It may be that inferior products are made in every country, but that is not a reason to delete that statement; furthermore, the recent controversy surrounding products made in China is clearly notable and worth putting in Wikipedia. Cgkm 22:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah,I have already known the counterfeiting issue,but it's not true about all you had read in the news paper,check the page toxic syrup,you will find more.For the toxic toothphase,it's the matter of different hygienic standard,In China small amount of chemicals are alowed to be added.Furthermore,the tainted food issue,as far as I know,there are many tainted food from US and Europe sold to China,and some of them were backlashed by the Customs.It's a global phenomenan not limited to Made in China.--Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 22:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


Ksyrie, thanks for your reply. Here are my comments:

  • The dog food and toxic cough syrup issues are still being investigated, but at least it is certainly worth mentioning that these issues exist. These are valid current events that are making headlines in international news.
  • The fact that officials in China admitted that nearly a fifth of all products made in China did not meet minimum standards is a fact, and is certainly worth putting in Wikipedia.
  • If certain small amounts of chemicals are indeed allowed to be added in China but not in other countries , that in itself is worth mentioning in Wikipedia.
  • I do not believe that there are nearly as many tainted products from US and Europe as from China, but if you have valid sources saying so, you are certainly free (and encouraged) to contribute those to the relevant pages (Made in the US, etc.). Products made in China are, to a certain extent, infamous for not meeting minimum standards (and considered by many to be at the top of this distinction), and this notability makes it worth including in Wikipedia.

So, I hope to reintroduce these points into the article, with proper references, and I encourage you to add your own points, with proper references. Thanks. Cgkm 23:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


All of your claims counts，but it is not appropriate to add to the Made in China,The products of Made in China is as large numbered,may count 20% of total international trade amount.And for Made in X countries there are also the same problem,such as Made in US and Made in EU.Check the article of Diethylene glycol,you will find how many miusage of this chemicals.For the toothphase issue,small amount of Diethylene glycol is allowed in China to be used as additive,and it seems that this kind of chemical was also used in other country,while maybe it is banned in US.The tainted food,I have no idea where do you find the infos to refer it as many？--Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 23:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

In the diethylene glycol article, most of the incidents in recent years is from products made in China. Due to international pressure, China is banning the toxic chemical diethylene glycol.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/11/ap3904526.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/12/business/worldbusiness/12paste.html

I don't see why adding these facts, as well as the other recent incidents I previously added, is inappropriate.

As for "many": we can change that to 20%, per the links provided below. Cgkm 18:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Furthemore,can you provide the fifth product of low-standard links,so I can verify them.--Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 23:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Links:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aIHn2JWgR2fQ&refer=asia
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8Q5LISG0.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6269318.stm
Cgkm 18:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV

"The phrase is viewed as an indication of inferior product quality made under questionable labor conditions by consumers in some countries" hardly seems like an encyclopedic passage, unless perhaps sourced in some way (i.e. polls supporting this claim). --Soultaco (talk) 01:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)