Talk:Luciano Berio
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[edit] Electronic?
Is Luciano Berio the creator of electronic music?
- Yes, see electronic music. Hyacinth 19:22, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- Berio isn't mentioned in that article as far as I can see, and is only mentioned in a list at Electronic art music, but his electronic work is briefly touched on in this article. As well as the electronic pieces mentioned here (Visage and Thema), he wrote several others for tape alone, and some pieces for tape and conventional instruments (Laborintus II is probably the best-known example). --Camembert
- Yes, that the internal link I meant, thanks. Hyacinth 01:20, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Berio isn't mentioned in that article as far as I can see, and is only mentioned in a list at Electronic art music, but his electronic work is briefly touched on in this article. As well as the electronic pieces mentioned here (Visage and Thema), he wrote several others for tape alone, and some pieces for tape and conventional instruments (Laborintus II is probably the best-known example). --Camembert
It's highly contentious as to who "created" electronic music, depending on how the term "electronic music" itself is defined, and whether early electronic works are considered "experiments" or "pieces" (and therefore, "music"). Some say Karlheinz Stockhausen's Gesang der Jünglinge is the first piece, but there are also the musique concrete pieces by Pierre Schaeffer and the French. My own sense is that Berio comes into the electronic music scene a little later (Tempo Reale is built after Boulez builds IRCAM), but definitely takes it in a different direction, using some of Umberto Eco's studies into linguistics to influence how he works. There are some excellent books on the subject of early electronic music--I'd recommend Modulations: A history of electronic music, edited by Peter Shapiro.
- Berio and Maderna started working on electronic music at the Studio di Fonologia della Rai in 1954. Of course that does not mean that they were the first to do so. But they did compose electronic pieces well before IRCAM or Tempo reale. 145.222.138.134 18:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Avant Garde Project"
This isn't the only such link from here to that site that's been made/edited- what's our policy about linking to sites that provide torrents? I don't think they're authorized, and I believe it's also possible at least that Italian copyright law is becoming more in line with that of the EU, so perhaps it might be a good idea to revert that edit from this and other pages? Schissel | Sound the Note! 06:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of Quotations
I'm writing in reference to the partial list of quotations in Berio's Sinfonia and perhaps the whole discussion of the Sinfonia. I think that it should be incorporated in a separate article about the Sinfonia and removed from the Luciano Berio article. It is much too detailed for this article.--Atavi 21:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
