Talk:List of states of matter

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Finally, a place for that list of wierd states of matter! I'm pretty sure there are some more states out there, I'm just not sure what they are.RJFJR 01:38, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

The article degenerate star lists baryon degenerate matter for what I call Neutron matter and electron degenerate matter for what I term degenerate matter, but those articles don't exist either. RJFJR 01:38, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

The description of supersolid may not be particularly accurate, but the article supersolid says little about it. RJFJR 01:38, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)


Is Fermions and Baryons proper nouns deserving capitalization? RJFJR 23:25, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

No. (See, for example, fermion and baryon.) --Korath会話 02:39, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Categorize

Perhaps this page should be categorized into 1) Phases that have been observered, and 2) Phases that are theoretical -- Colonel Panic

[edit] Black holes

Forgive my ignorance, but should there be an entry for the sort of matter than exists in black holes? Perhaps it's no longer fair to describe it as matter, but I can't see why not. It does appear to be an omission from the list. But as I know next to nothing about black holes ... --Plumbago 16:43, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I agree with Colonel Panic about the known vs. theoretical split. --Plumbago 16:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Extra States

Should the Efimov state be added? ( http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-03/uoc-ain031506.php )

I think the Filament state should be included here. i have added it before but somebody removed it. (http://www.the-electric-universe.info/Scripts/six_states.html)

Looks like WP:OR to me. Come back when there's a properly referenced Wikipedia article about it. EdC 20:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite ?

I would categorize the main phases of matter more like this:

Crystals
Fluids
  Amorphous solids
  Liquids
  Gases

Note that I consider amorphous solids to be fluids, since they are deformable (over a long time period when cold and a small time period when hot). I also think we should include other phases of matter, like gels and aerogels, which are currently absent. StuRat 03:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Nah, amorphous solids are solid: Glass#Glass_as_a_liquid. There's a thermodynamic difference between amorphous solids and fluids; the atoms in a glass have insufficient energy to break and reform their bonds. Gels and aerogels (etc.) are all colloids. EdC 09:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graph

This might benefit from a graph or two, showing which states are associated with higher or lower levels of temperature and pressure. jnestorius(talk) 00:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Title is misleading

I believe this article would be better titled "States of Matter". Here and in the Phase (matter) article there is confusion between the usage of 'phase' to denote the difference of liquid vs. solid as opposed to the the difference between diamond and graphite. The liquid vs. solid distinction is properly a difference in 'state of matter' -- yes they are necessarily different phases, too. However, in the diamond vs. graphite case, both ate the same state of matter (solid) but different phases. Olof

This list should follow Phase (matter), so best discussed there.–EdC 13:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Candidate for history merge?

After disabiguating the Phase (matter) and States of matter pages, I moved List of phases of matter to List of states of matter, not knowing of the procedure for moving pages. 'List of states of matter' is the right title for the content on the page. -- Olof

It should be done now. Let me know if I screwed it up. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Looks right to me -- Olof

You have alot of good information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.112.120 (talk) 23:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)