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[edit] J.J. Picture

someone needs to fix J.J. It looks really weird in Mozilla.

J.J. looks fine with the latest Firefox version. Make sure you're using the latest version. --Snkcube 05:45, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Which enemies are not part of the Las Plagas. -- Psi edit 18:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

All of the enemies in the game were somehow created using Las Plagas. --Halloween jack 20:02, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

While it's good to say 'Eyes dropped by Novistadors depend on how they're killed', it'd be nice to get a list of what method nets what eye.

On the picture of Dr. Salvador you can see he is wearing some sort of straps that go over his shoulders to keep his pants up. I have no idea what they are called. Could someone tell me?--- overals

Suspenders? Tim 02:31, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


earlier today, for Iron Maiden it showed Eddy, the character from the Iron Maiden CDs and etc. I was going to mention removing it but because my school computers are blocked from editing Wiki (which was my fault) I couldn't mention it. But its gone now so I suppose this is all pointless.

What's with the last paragraph in the Los Ganados section? xinline88

[edit] Gameplay advice, etc.

I've been working on a major edit of this article, mostly correcting the direct gameplay advice it contains, as I believe it to be irrelevent and outside of Wikipedia's scope. I'm not against listing notable vulnerabilities of the game's creature, but I think lengthy discussions of gameplay issues and creature encounters are inappropriate.

If anyone happens to agree/disagree with these views, I'd like to hear it. I'm going to delay posting the reworked article until at least a few days, maybe more or less depending on the reception of my suggestions.--FrostyBytes 01:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I like the idea of a basic discription of the creatures and weaknesses and how they act etc. but I do agree a guide style instruction shouldn't be included, for example:
A worm erupts from it's back which is vunerable to attack

as opposed to

 By slashing the tenticles a worm erupts form it's back by pressing the action button one can attack it, this must be repeated 3 times to finish it off
if that's what you meant I agreeWolfmankurd 19:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Yup, that's what I meant by it. The revision has been up for about a week now, I think.
Also, it'd be nice if someone could take a look at the entry for Las Plagas, more specifically the list of Plagas as seen ingame. I'm out of ideas for how to improve that particular section, yet I find that it needs some improving.--FrostyBytes 20:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Snakes

Hey guys what about them snakes in the boxes. Croatnik 06:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

...eh: more of an incidental hazard; kind of like the swinging pendulum blades, albeit organically-based. I don't believe they are relevant enough to necessitate mentioning. --206.40.119.252 10:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC) Thanks, Aaron 7.17.2006

Well, technically, the are creatures that aren't automated like swinging blades, as they are capable of following you and attacking at will, just like any other "official" creature in the game. While there isn't exactly a whole lot more to say about them than "They come out of boxes and attack you, die with one shot", they are still an existent part of the game. -D14BL0 03:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding "Unkown creature"

I'm pretty sure this is a regenerator. If the box containing it is opened, but the bag inside not attacked, an additional standard regenerator appears in the room after you procede up the corridor, seemingly having burst from the bag. I'm baseing this on my memories of the game, which may be innaccurate. Could someone be so good as to check? Jefffire 12:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

If you prove to be correct, it´d be great to explain the bag-monster as being a regenerator, especially seeing as how no matter how often I clean it up, someone always comes along to add some speculation on the bag monster. --FrostyBytes 13:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

It will take someone with the gall and determination to take on Sadlers army, storm his island strong hold, and the open the box but not kill the creature. Any takers? Jefffire 17:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I went through on a speed-run earlier today (A little over five hours, I don't think that's too shabby), opened the box, and left the creature alone. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary throughout the rest of the game, so it doesn't look like it's supposed to come to your aid later in the game, or anything like that (like the dog in the village). It looks like it's just there to spook you (sure did manage to spook me the first time I came across it). While, yes, it would make a lot of sense if it were a Regenerator, seeing as how there's a bunch in that area of the game, there's nothing at all to prove or disprove what it is. And I don't think Capcom's ever released anything about what it's actually supposed to be, so I guess we should just leave it at that. A spook device. -D14BL0 04:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
If it's a regenerator, how come you can kill it with one knife slash or bullet? Sylocat 03:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
If I remember right, it wasn't as big as the other Regenerators you come across, so it is possible that it is probably a weakend or flawed Regenerator. Razer of Chaos 16:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Here's an idea, maybe it's just a generic bag of reincarnated flesh, and not meant to be taken seriously. Powerslave (talk-contribs) 19:29, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Children and etc.

I removed the stuff about "filicides" because there is no evidence for it, other than the supposed small hand (doesn't look small to me). If the case for it is just that hand, there's no real evidence for it. For all we know, Saddler may have magically turned the village's children into bacon. --Crazysunshine 00:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I suppose the "real" reason there are no child Ganados is because a swarm of Thompsonites would be up in arms. Bisected8 15:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

According to the booklet included with Biohazard 4: Incubate, the children of the village died after they were injected with the Plaga sample by Saddler. Jonny2x4 06:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

If I remember right, one of Luis' memos explains that plagas would only kill the children hosts. It's in one of those documents Leon finds Powerslave (talk-contribs) 19:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding "Honest Woodcutter" to the notable Ganado section

If you look closely you'll notice that the first Ganado you encounter (the one who yells at Leon when he shows the picture) has a body which doesn't disintergrate. He may also be the same Ganado which attacks you while your tied up with Luis. The fact that he reappears after you first defeat him and that his body doesn't disintegrate (like JJ, Dr Salvador et al), in my opinion, means that he should be mentione in the article.-Bisected8 15:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm inclined against it. He seems to be a stock enemy, notable only for being the first enemy encountered. The lack of disintegration is probably not important. Jefffire 16:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
As I said though, he does seem to reappear so maybe he is just notable for at least a mention?Bisected8 12:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
It could just as easily be claimed that he reappears continuously throughout the game, because he, like all other Ganados, does not have his own unique appearance. As for his corpse not disintegrating, remember that Leon/the player is not supposed to know that there is anything abnormal about the villagers other than their inexplicable hostility. As far as I can remember, the next two/three (depending on difficulty) Ganados that are encountered outside the house do not disappear either. Nor do the Leader Zealots, the Ganado who stole Leon's jacket (seen in the Seperate Ways scenario) or any Ganado who operates a machine turret. Emperor Ing 01:24, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
The disintegration has nothing to do with the Las Plagas. The reason he doesn't melt away like the rest of them is because they expect you to take a good look at the dead body, being your first of many kills (note that you have the option to "Check" the body after you kill him).
The rest of the creatures disintegrate simply because it keeps the game running smoothly, and keeps things clean. It's hard to spot items on the floor when you've littered the room full of bodies. -D14BL0 05:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually the ram-masked Zealot outside the gate where you rush to save Ashley from Salazar doesnt disintegrate either, he seems to be the only other one.207.5.195.216 10:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

This is - just like the first enemy encountered - because it's imperative to the gameplay that you check the body for an item. I believe that there's a third enemy somewhere in the game that also doesn't disintegrate, but I can't remember off-hand. D14BL0 03:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Annoying game guide edits

Some time ago, I took it upon myself to rework this article, and bring it up to a higher standard. I didn't add any content, I just improved what was already there, and removed what seemed like irrelevant to the article, e.g. game guide content.

As it is, the vast majority of edits are contributions by users who are not signed in, and add game guide-type content. I'm a bit annoyed at having to constantly revert game guide edits to keep this article in good shape, as I feel a bit personally invested in it. Isn't there some sort of template to point out that the addition of the types of content in question are unwanted? It'd be very helpful if one were to be added at the top of the article itself and/or the talk page. FrostyBytes 23:08, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Villagers' names.

I hope no one minds, but I added a brief sentence to the Villager's section mentioning that they are the only standard Ganados that have their own names. I didn't put a lot in about it, I just felt it was worth noting and I found that interesting.Metalsamurai 13:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Making the Article Neater and Tighter

Someone's been putting in annoying little details replete with bad grammar to most of the creatures, such as the Regenerators and their genitals. Someone help me fix it up! Nintenboy01 19:47, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I honestly don't see the problem with the "annoying little details", there isn't a whole lot to say about these enemies anyway. Dementus 13:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Someone put a small comment about having sex with a Regenerators, just thought I should remove that. =P 68.210.183.214 17:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Somebody is Ruining this Article

Whoever took away the pictures of the Zealots, Garrador, and Novistador needs to STOP. There was absolutely NOTHING wrong with those pictures as they were from the official game art. It appears that the El Gigante picture is also gone and that the Iron Maiden picture has been badly replaced. Someone needs to put this article back the way it was: perfectly fine. Dementus 12:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Why is this article separated from the List_of_Resident_Evil_creatures?

They should be merged, as RE4 is part of the RE series.

No it doesn't: The enemies in RE4 are much different from the enemies in any other RE game because they are of a completely different originality. Other RE games have zombies and rotting things, RE4 has the hosts of parasites, and these enemies cannot be grouped with zombies because they are just too different from zombies. Dementus 13:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

These aren't T-virus or zombies.They are Las pegas(correct this) related.

I refer to my article somehwat earlier, when I mention that RE4 IS RE4 BECAUSE LAS PLAGAS IS LEECHES Re4 is indeed a resident evil game and should be including its creaturs in the List_of_resident_evil_creatures.

I disagree with the idea of merging the two articles. The creatures in RE4 are entirely different than those of any other game in the series, and are all also unique to this particular game, whereas creatures in previous games exist in more than one title.
I should also add that they are not leeches. You may recall that the Las Plagas are very ancient beings. Way older than leeches.-D14BL0 03:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Unnamed Village

In the section about villagers, it refers to the village as "[...]the unnamed village" however, if memory serves correctly, then just outside the village, a sign pointing to it reads as "Pueblo". I will change this in a few days if this gets no response, or if you agree then please feel free to alter the article for me. ZeroG91 21:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Pueblo is just a regular Spanish word for town. :p Jonny2x4 04:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Pueblo means village or town, it is not the name for the village in the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.240.166 (talk) 23:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colmillos' Name in Spanish

"Eyeteeth" or "canine teeth" is translated as (dientes) caninos in Spanish. The correct translation for colmillos is "fangs". Spanish is my mother tongue so I know what I'm talking about. Shadowy Crafter 21:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

People got the "eyetooth" idea from the player's guide, which is loaded with inaccuracies and made-up stuff. Powerslave (talk-contribs) 19:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merchant Does Not Run Away

The Merchant does not run away when Ganados are around. You simply cannot talk to him.--Drisbe 02:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I have never noticed any Ganados when I was around the Merchant PhotoNikonMan 11:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I beg to differ actually, I was being chased by the Soldiers on the island and headed to where the Merchant was suppose to be, but yet, he wasn't even there Captain Drake Van Hellsing 19:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
The mercant usually moves if there are gannados nearby.Lord GaleVII 12:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC).
I realise now, It happened to me too. The merchant also crouched under a table on the island PhotoNikonMan 07:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Las PLagas

Insertformulahere Though I have not played this game, I can see parrallels in the Las PLagas, and Leeches, anyone else notice this, Which would explain why Nintendo released resident evil 0 before resident evil 4, and why resident evils storyline just happens to fit in, perhaps las plagas is indeed dormant leeches from Marcus's experiments, maybe even the final product of his research before he died (after all William Birkin and Wesker did shoot him and take over his research.) So maybe this isn't a totally seperate title at all, and that nintendo is just waiting for someone to stumble across the convienient plot twist. Either way, that would explain the los ganados behavior, with a more advanced strain of the Tyrant virus, they may be able to retain some central nervous system related behaviors, but because the virus's main thing was that it attacks the brain, destroying pain receptors, and concious brian control, and that is what caused subjects to become zombies. This could be a strain of the virus much like Dr. Griffiths strain (from S.D. Perry's novel "Resident evil Caliban Cove") which allows useres to retain some concious control. after all, Umbrella was searching to make its virus more... powerful. a higher strain that allows the user consious control, and allows the infected acess to higher visual perceptions, structural integraty, etc. So maybe thats how this game ties in... and perhaps we wont see anymore "Low strain" virus zombies, instead we may find loyal (yet underground) agents infected with this virus and used to further developement of a "High-strain" G- virus as well, making a tyrant subject possibly 100 times more powerful (enough to survive nuclear war.)

by the way, so that you may contact me this is my contactEarth Onyx 01:56, 28 May 2007 (UTC)Earth Onyx →

That doesn't make a lot of sense. Marcus created the leeches only a short time before the events of RE0. In RE4, it claims the Plagas had been buried in mines under Salazar's castle for generations. JMJ 02:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erasing Contributions.

I'm sick of people erasing contributions on the grounds that its game advice. A good majority of it however isn't. When someone says, "it's weak point is its face," or gives a small detail about the creatures apperance, that's O.K. The whole point of having this page seprate from the Resident Evil 4 main page is because its about the small details like that. If someone gives a long description of the entire battle against the creature (like, "you must walk to the left than jump and fire then dodge) than by all means erase it. Otherwise please think about it for a minuete, before you undo the contribution.

That is indeed game guide content. It's giving advice on how to play the game. Weak points, tips, codes, cheats and other advice isn't suitable encyclopedia content. Details about the appearance of characters is fine, as long as it doesn't go into guide content (such as the weak point is the face). Minor or not: it's still guide content. If people want to find out how to defeat enemies, they should go elsewhere. RobJ1981 17:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. I don't consider minor details like "weak points" to be giving any advice. It's more of providing more details about the appearance and build of the character. For example, some of the creatures in RE4 have visible Las Plagas emerging from their bodies. Stating that the repulsive, bleeding, writhing growth is the creature's weak point isn't advice, as much as it is describing the condition of the character. -D14BL0 03:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if you disagree. Game advice is not allowed on Wikipedia. That's like stating "I disagree, I think we should allow original research." It's against WP policy to include it, so unless you change WP policy, it's not allowed in any article. Geoff B 11:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I know this. However, providing a full detail of a character in a game shouldn't be considered game advice, unless you consider the difference in wording to be effective. "His face is his weak point" is just the same as "His face, reconstructed from the bones of thirty-two small fish, is in a weakened state". Notice that the second sentence sounds a lot more like a character description, while both are really the same thing.
It's all weasel words. Providing character descriptions isn't game advice. Saying "If you hit his face, you'll do more damage," is game advice. That's all there really is to it. -D14BL0 00:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect translation

Spanish is my first language.

1.- "Ganado" can refer to "cattle" or "won over"
2.- "Los ganados" can refer only to "the ones that were won over" because "ganado" (referring to cattle) is a plural word already so it cannot have an s at the ending. Otherwise it will be a "double plural" and that is grammatically incorrect.
So:
El ganado can be translated as: "the cattle" or "the one won over"
Los ganados can be translated only as "the ones that were won over"

[edit] Firearms

"With the exception of J.J., no soldier carries a firearm." Does anybody consider Rpg's as firearms?Grayjack 21:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)Grayjack

I do. You have a good oint, that should be changed.--The Infamous Dr. Salvador 22:57, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
No, RPGs are not firearms, so no, it should not be changed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder-launched_missile_weapon. Please do a few minutes research next time. Geoff B 02:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I think you're being a little to specific. I don't think that firearms(in the sentance) really, specificly only things classified as firearms. I think it meants anything that envolves a trigger and gunpowder.--The Infamous Dr. Salvador 04:37, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't think RPGs contain gunpowder. It's more likely some kind rocket propellant. Gopherbassist (talk) 04:51, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regenerador

Isn't the regenerator called the regenerador (possibly Spanish word for it). I dunno the only thing I have back it up is the soundtrack lists the music that plays when facing one as 'Regenerador'.60.242.236.93 09:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

An in-game document calls them 'Regenerators', there must be an error with the soundtrack listing. Emperor Ing 17:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I think you're right about that one. Frostmourne 16 06:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Gaming Advice

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