Talk:List of Midsomer Murders episodes

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[edit] Good Job

I have to congratulate you on creating this article, must have taken a while to compile this information.--Mickyfitz13 13:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, and it did take a while!--Berks105 16:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order

The IP address User:213.40.110.117 suggested that the episodes should be in production order. I must state that they should not be. All episode lists, on Wikipedia and all other websites, book and everything, are always in broadcast order. When they were made is immaterial and to have them in production order (like they were before I redordered them) is most confusing to the ordinary person trying to read it. --Berks105 16:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I personally can't really see the need for filming date at all, not on a list of episodes page. It certainly shouldn't be in filming order, that would be at odds with all other Wikipedia lists, IMDb, TV.com etc. --UpDown 09:31, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Surely in this case "Ghosts of Christmas Past" should be listed within Season 8 not seperately before it as it was aired after the first two season 8 episodes. --Warpfactor 11:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Thats difficult, because it was a christmas special, not an episode from the series. But I agree it does not look odd out of broadcast order. --UpDown 12:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
It does look really odd having it before series 8, episode guides should be in broadcast order. All other episode guides on the net place it as the 3rd episode of Series 8 such as the following
http://www.epguides.com/midsomermurders/
http://www.midsomermurders.net/episodes.php?id=menu
My suggestion would be either to include it as part of Series 8 (perhaps with a note saying it was a Christmas Special), or to split Series 8 into two, and place this episode between them. (Series 8, Xmas special, Series 8 continued).Paul 1978 17:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Although not perfect, I prefer the way it is now. It should be marked out as a Christmas special, as this is what it is, it's not part of a series, no more than the pilot is. --UpDown 07:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Airdates

Are you sure about 'They Seek Him Here's airdate as beingthe 7th of october, as it was just broadcast this sunday (26 August) in Australia. It seem s strange that it would be broadcast here first 4:38, 28 August 2007

It certainly has not yet be aired in the UK. I am surprised if it has been aired in Australia!?--UpDown 08:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't know why, but we're certainly getting episodes ahead of the UK. "Death in a Choclate Box", the episode listed here as October 14th, is airing as I type. Gesso 11:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I do find that very hard to believe. Anyway, this page should show first UK airdate regardless as its a UK programme. --UpDown 11:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I've clarified it so the dates shown are visably "Original UK airdate". This is, I believe, the best solution. According to TV.com they also air earlier in Norway, so its far easier and more consistent to have the earlier UK airdate regardless.--UpDown 07:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Series 4 or 5

Can anyone explain why Tainted Fruit is listed here as the last episode of series four when it has been realeased as the first episode of series 5 on DVD, I am from Australia so the DVD realeases might be different here. 4:04, 4 September 2006

There is always some confusion over series, with episodes often airing far apart. However, I suspect this is Series 4 due to the closeness in airdate with other episodes. --UpDown 08:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Individual Articles for episodes?

Does anyone agree for having individual articles for MM episodes? Or am I being fussy? (Willieboyisaloser 17:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)WillieboyisaloserWillieboyisaloser 17:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC))

I'm not fussed either way, but beware the Episode maniacs who go round redirecting any episode article that doesnt show "real world context". --UpDown 09:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really bothered either way, but my preference would be to see all the episodes on one page, with a short plot description of each story. I'm not sure what extra information would feature on a page for every story, a full cast list I suppose? Would there be enough information to justify an extra page for each episode? Paul 1978 10:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Paul 1978, I agree, but we could have an extra page which lists the episodes and the number of deaths in them [if we put it on the main page readers may be annoyed to have to read the "body count" which may spoilt it for them if they haven't seen the episode before]. (Willieboyisaloser 16:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)WillieboyisaloserWillieboyisaloser 16:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC))

I'm not sure that the "body count" info is really needed, but even if it was, it could be included in the current episode list (I think for whodunnits the only thing to avoid in episode lists are the solution & the murderer). I'd certainly like to expand the current list to include a short plot description though Paul 1978 23:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I think individual articles are a good idea, just like Buffy the Vampire Slayer episodes.--Johnbull 21:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Future scheduling

Could people please give references if they are going to add broadcast dates for the unaired programmes. There have been edits recently with people giving exact dates in January next year, which is ludicrous given the fact that television schedules in the UK aren't finalised that far in advance. Paul 1978 19:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help on episode articles

I have done a 'Death's Shadow' article but cannot get it up to the standard of the forerunner 'Electric Vendetta' article. Can anyone assist? (Willieboyisaloser 17:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC))

I am somewhat concerned by the creation of these episode pages. They contain little content, merely who died and information repeated from this page. The who died information is trivial. Please remember that episodes should conform to policy about being notable. If they are going to be such short stub then I will redirect to main page.--UpDown 08:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Other TV series have their own episode information pages like Prison Break. These WILL be expanded, but it is easier to give each ep a stub and then go back and expand. Better very little than none at all. NOTE: Over the episode summary [WHEN IT COMES] we can have a spoiler warning. (Willieboyisaloser 17:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC))

Sorry but that won't stand up. Many episode articles are now being redirected to episodes pages. Saying you'll expand them later doesn't work, if you have real world information then you can add this, otherwise I will redirect them. And spoiler warnings aren't necessary per a common consensus. --UpDown 07:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

To be honest I don't think there is really a need for separate episode articles. Having looked at Death's Shadow and Electric Vendetta it doesn't show much information and whilst the Death's Shadow article has loads of information, it's very much stuff for fanpages which WP is not.

Shows such as Buffy and Prison Break have separate ones is because they have story arcs spanning multiple episodes - seasons and have more real world info. That's my 2 pence anyway. :) carocat 23:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I redid the Death's Shadow article, so it was easier to read, before realising it was pointless and superfluous. We should worry about the info on the episode list. I hope Willieboyisaloser does not complain. (GavinTheDetective 19:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Episode Summary

Is there any reason the episode summary stops after series 3? If there isn't I'll add those in the next few weeks as I'm re watching all the episodes again at the moment. Cheers, carocat 23:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

There is no reason, its just no one has got round to doing them!--UpDown 08:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Nope, it's just what I'd got to before work got busy...feel free to do any that you can (I always struggle writing a synopsis anyway lol). I'm going to change the other tables to match, and leave the summaries empty so that people can add info as they wish Paul 1978 01:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Just finished episode summaries on series 4,5,8 and 9. Feel free to correct, add more info etc. When I get onto the reamining series the same applies. (Treedemfoir 15:56, 2 December 2007 (UTC))

Finished all episode articles up to death in a choccy box. Fell free to change, as b4. (Treedemfoir (talk) 16:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC))

To the person who just restored the article to how it originally was with the end of series 10, thanks. I made a right mess of it. Nevertheless, at some point we should put the newly announced episodes it airing order [perhaps just after they've aired] but beforehand we can have them in the orignal order. Thanks again. (Treedemfoir (talk) 18:50, 11 December 2007 (UTC))