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[edit] "Heeeeere's Johnny-cakes!"

I don't think that line spoofs The Shining, as it's not done in a "terrifying" manner -- rather, it directly spoofs the original Ed McMahon introduction in The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson. I say this, and I'm not even an American, and I've never even seen The Tonight Show! What do you guys think? Dave-ros 22:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

== Jebediah Springfield == :-)

Who happens to voice this character? Thanks, Aeryck89 17:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I found who voices it, Harry Shearer. Aeryck89 17:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Day of the Locust

• I find it odd that there's no mention of Donald Sutherland's role as Homer Simpson in this movie. JuJube 17:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cromulent

I'm not familiar with the DVD commentary, but there is a scene in the Blackadder III episode where Edmund (Rowan Atkinson) is trying to prove that Samuel Johnson's (Robbie Coltrane) dictionary is incomplete, and starts inventing words that then need to be inserted. When challenged on the first of these, he replies "It's a perfectly cromulent word!". Given the perfectly matching dialogue, this surely has to be a reference, rather than a stunningly identical coinage.

Indeed. If anyone still doesn't believe this I'm happy to snip out the section of footage and put it on YouTube. The word cromulent is used in exactly the same context as in this Simpsons episode but nine years earlier. I doubt its a coincidence. - 58.107.50.36 (talk) 00:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

You need a source, and no forums do not count, nor do blogs or YouTube. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 01:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

How would putting the clip on YouTube not count? It's a question of fact not interpretation. I'll have a look for the DVD when I have time. - 58.107.50.36 (talk) 01:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not going to lie, I've never heard this, but in the DVD commentary, they basically give the impression that they came up with it. So, that means that it COULD (however unlikely it may seem) be a coincidence, but it shouldn't just be said that it is a reference to Blackadder, because that would then void everything the producers have said, and there wouldn't be a source. If you can find a proper source, then it could be included and a more correct phrase would be "An episode of the television show Blackadder III used the word 'Cromulent'. This usage predates The Simpsons by ___ years." It doesn't make any assumptions or accusations. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 02:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I can confirm that this is false. 'Cromulent' does not appear in that scene from Ink and Incapability, nor anywhere else in Blackadder as far as I know. Drunkenmonkey111 (talk) 03:43, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I've done some google searching and as far as I can tell, this has never been confirmed at all, most of the mentions I've found are just random people saying it on forums and message groups. In the DVD commentary for this episode, they give the impression that they invented the word, but don't go into detail. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

The simpsons writers DID invent the word. I just watched the scene from the Blackadder episode 'Ink and Incapability' and the word 'cromulent' DOES NOT appear anywhere in it. Blackadder says 'it's a perfectly common word'. The person who raised this topic was mistaken. End of discussion Drunkenmonkey111 (talk) 02:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)