Talk:Limbo of the Lost

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Limboscreen1.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Limboscreen2.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Limboscreen3.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Limboscreen4.jpg

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[edit] Fair Use

Having said that, if the controversy is correct then the developers are going to be having trouble showing fair use too. Bamboo marimba (talk) 14:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I usually don't add to non-sequetor type comments, but well played. LeilaniLad (talk) 15:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
It would be epically ironic if they sued Wikipedia for the use of those images. Manic-pedant (talk) 20:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Haha, I don't think they will get to see a computer ever again —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.132.205 (talk) 19:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MEME

seeing as this is what this game is swiftly becoming shall we mention the meme qualities of it? there is one website even holding a competition to make the best background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.185.60 (talk) 12:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hoax / Viral marketing

There is plenty of murmuring that this may all be a hoax / viral marketing. As of this writing, no person partaking in forum discussions on this saga has received a copy of the game. The publisher issuing statements and webstores de-listing the game could be seen as evidence against the idea that this is all a hoax. Regardless, the search for further sources appears to have become something of a passtime for many. ZeBoxx (talk) 15:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

I have added several [citation needed] tags for items for which I don't recall any source. I'm putting together a comparison table see below), and although I have sources for many of the allegations - including screenshots / etc. - there are others that are iffy and/or I can find no source for. Could others jump in and add source citations where appropriate? ZeBoxx (talk) 14:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Title Limbo of the Lost ref Original ref Notes
Black and White 2 http://www.gameplasma.com/limbo_of_the_lost_or_oblivion/images/limbo1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/sven_kola/blackwhite2.jpg hand (Alleged - size too small to tell)
Crysis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqwNejK2x6Y (1m47s) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUwZ3lW7F98 (0m47s) island approach
Diablo 2 http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/limbo_of_the_lost/231765 http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/normal/ushields.shtml shield graphic
Diablo 2 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/hragged/360thread/limboofthelost.jpg http://www.errorfreesites.com/ebay/images/mule5/Wall%20of%20the%20Eyeless.jpg ornate border
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion http://gameplasma.com/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=621 http://gameplasma.com/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=621 environments
Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth (game) http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/limbo/limboofthelost.zip (20MB screenshot pack) http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetcnc.gamespy.com/features/reviews/bfme/mainmenu.jpg menu buttons, font face
The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/LimboOfTheLost/Snap14.jpg http://members.shaw.ca/rado907/armor/medium/mor-orcarmor.jpg suit of armor / Orcish armor
Painkiller http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28891.html (2m39s) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJniAgD5wT0 environment
Painkiller http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/932503_20080514_screen015.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/pnklr-20080612-031757.jpg environment
Return to Castle Wolfenstein http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/932503_20080514_screen015.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/pnklr-20080612-031757.jpg environment
Thief 3 http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/limbo_of_the_lost/231765 http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/thief_deadly_shadows/92784 environment
Thief 3 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/limbo/limboofthelost.zip (20MB screenshot pack) [no comparison source] shopkeep environment
Unreal http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f24/dubdesign/BuF/Snap15.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f24/dubdesign/BuF/UT20042008-06-1202-29-25-76.png environment
Unreal http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/835/snap17yb0.jpg http://www.beyondunreal.com/media/gen_080611_1.jpg augmented environment
Unreal http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4149/snap2mt2.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5221/ut20046122008dmhelmzdeebd4.jpg environment (map unknown)
Unreal mod: HelmzDeep http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/Snap3.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/UT2004-6-12-2008-DM-Helmzdeep-00035.jpg environment
Vampire: Blood Lines http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h/images.gamezone.com/screens/29/2/3/s29203_pc_76.jpg [no comparison source] sewer environment
World of Warcraft http://i25.tinypic.com/2qwfv52.jpg http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/wallpapers/images/blacktemple/blacktemple-1024x.jpg ornate borders top/bottom
Conan (movie) http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/jimtothehum/grunan.gif http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/jimtothehum/grunan.gif inconclusive: many a graphic / game / movie depicts this particular position
The Illusionist (movie) http://images.strategyinformer.com/game_images/original/0012/0002432.jpg http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/m/J/N/illusionistpub12.jpg inconclusive: many a graphic / game / movie depicts this particular look
Legend (movie) http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/jimtothehum/Swamp-Fag.gif http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/jimtothehum/Swamp-Fag.gif inconclusive but suspect: creatures of this type are often designed this way. In particular, the eye sockets do not match.
Master and Commander(?) (movie) http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4001/vlcsnap490530pw2.png [no comparison source] (alleged, maybe be a Pirates of the Caribbean (movie) scene?)
Pirates of the Caribbean (movie) http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/8690/vlcsnap489754ru2.png [no comparison source] (alleged)
Spawn (movie) http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28891.html (2m40s) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KMYx8lG59A (0m25s) descent to hell sequence - confirmed to match
Hexen (videogame soundtrack) http://youtube.com/watch?v=RIL_OWlNbyE (making of...) http://www.sycraft.org/content/audio/hexen.shtml (soundtrack music) (alleged)
RUNE (videogame dialogue) http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34863.html (0m23s) http://www.inkslinger.org/writing/samples/writing/writingsamplerunescript.html spoken dialogue verbatim from RUNE script
WETA creature shop bust http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/Snap2.jpg http://www.16bit.com/toypics/lotr/bust-wraith/wraith-front-full.jpg bust photos composited into environment
Title Limbo of the Lost ref Original ref Notes
Silent Hill 4 [no reference] [no reference] noted in the wiki page, but no reference provided
enclave [no reference] [no reference] noted in the wiki page, but no reference provided

ZeBoxx (talk) 15:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Great conclusion. I'm following the whole discussion on plagiarism but couldn't find references for Crysis and Silent Hill either. - Jack's Revenge (talk) 15:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
And let me add "thank you". :) - Jack's Revenge (talk) 15:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks - found a reference for 'Crysis' - it's actually a CryEngine2 Tech Demo vid from 2005. The rest I haven't spotted anywhere yet, and web searching is becoming more and more difficult with every blog and its dog copying eachother verbatim (thus including things without reference). ZeBoxx (talk) 18:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)