Talk:Ligament

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Contents 1 Knee ligaments 2 Vandalism 3 Article complexity 4 Dislocation, suppleness

[edit] Knee ligaments

I am moving the bit on knee ligaments over to knee, it is way more appropriate there I think. lommer 01:14, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Someone has vandalized the page. Please replace it with the previous information. Dog Man311 19:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. Usually a bot will manage to correct a blanked page before you can. However, you can do it yourself easily. Click on the History tab, click on the date of the most recent legitimate version, and then click the edit tab, and save. That way you replaced the vandalized version with the most recent legitimate one. Alternately, from the History tab, you can click on "last" to display the most recent change, then click on "undo" to revert it. -Amatulic 19:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article complexity

This page has articles who has some prior knowledge about ligaments. This article should be made simple so that even a non-medical person could understand.Tamilmani 12:12, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I am not a medical person yet I understood enough to have been able to learn quite a lot from reading the article. I must confess that I glossed over a few sections that were more expert, and I had to look up some terms (for example peritoneum), but my impression is of a well balanced and informative article. So sorry, I have to disagree with your assessment. Regards LittleOldMe 12:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dislocation, suppleness

"This is one reason why dislocated joints must be set as quickly as possible: if the ligaments lengthen too much, then the joint will be weakened, becoming prone to future dislocations. Athletes, gymnasts, dancers, and martial artists perform stretching exercises to lengthen their ligaments, making their joints more supple."

I believe the article would benefit much from exploring these two concepts. It is mention that if a ligament lengthens due to dislocation, the joint is weakened. This is not mentioned in conjunction with the lengthening of ligaments from physical trainers who do so willingly and often under control (save those who stretch bouncy with ballistics). Would this also weaken the joint, or is the more controlled nature of physical training less destabilizing to the joint? Does the strengthening of tendons and muscles grossing the joint substitute for ligaments which are no longer able to do so? Furthermore, are different parts (or different ligaments altogether) stretched within a joint depending on what is done?

Using the ligaments of the knee is the best example. Ligaments prevent hyperflexion of the knee (such as sitting on one's shins, or deep squatting done by people with a lot of fat or large calves/hamstrings which works to lever the joint apart. Ligaments prevent hyperextension of the knee as well, which happens often by extending it too rapidly, or if weight is born improperly. Similarly, when traction is appliked to the knee (such as if you were being hung upside down by 1 leg during a fall or if someone was lifting you by the ankle) the ligaments (along with I think, tension in both the knee flexors and extensors, though 'm not sure), connective fascia, and the skin all work together to keep the leg together. The emphasis on what bears this burden will probably vary between people dependant on both inherant genetics and lifestyle (including health). Now, with these 3 different purposes that knee ligaments contribute to, surely they would emphasize different parts, or maybe not? Different attachment points? Those resisting hyper flexion and extensive being furthest apart and that resisting traction being something intermediate. If sources on physiotherapy and anatomy could be contributed by someone knowledgeable in the area I think it would benefit a lot in expanding the article. Tyciol (talk) 21:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)