Talk:Lieberman Plan

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[edit] Misleading text

This article mentions that the Galilee and the Negev have a lot of Arab Israelis, however, I'm pretty sure these areas are not included in the Lieberman plan and he only plans to hand over The Triangle, other central areas like Kfar Qasim, as well as some parts of Jerusalem. Please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 22:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map

I think we need a map of the proposed changes. Does one exist? Indisciplined 18:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Facts

In a 2004 speech Lieberman suggested that 90% of Israel's Arabs would have their citizenships annulled. At most 40% of Israel's Arabs live in the Triangle however. Search for "90%" and "Avigdor Lieberman" on Google and there are plenty of references to that speech. Handing over the Triangle is nothing controversial and has been suggested by Shimon Peres and others.

This is also misleading. Lieberman proposed a change where anyone who doesn't serve in the IDF would have their full citizenship annulled. By this virtue, about 90% Arabs' citizenships would be annulled. However, they would not necessarily go over to the Palestinian Authority. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 11:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Wrong. Lieberman/YB suggest lesser citizenship for those that in the future refuse to serve in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) or partake in alternative "national service". Citizenship would only be revoked for those citizens who refuse to pledge a compulsory oath of allegience to the state. Besides, the number of Israeli Arabs who don't serve in the army is far over 99% or nearly 100%. The 90% figure corresponds directly to the size of the Arab population in Israel's three main Arab regions. The remaining 10% live in areas that cannot be ceded because there is no territorial contiguity with the West Bank.

Yisrael Beytenu should be contacted regarding the map. They of all people should have a map. There is a phone number on the English-language web page www.yisraelbeytenu.com to a contact person. He may have a map.