Talk:LGBT rights opposition
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBT related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, visit the project page. |
| Start | This article has been rated as Start-class on the quality scale. |
 Archives |
|
|---|---|
| Archive 1 | |
| Archive 2 | |
Please limit discussion on this page to proposed changes to the Gay rights opposition article only. This is not the place for discussions about Wikipedia policies or guidelines. All discussion unrelated to the article will be removed.
Contents |
[edit] Geographic Scope
The article is substantially americanocentric. There must be counter-movements in other countries. As a not-observer of gay-rights issues, I have not the first clue where to look and what research to do. Can we make it a goal to do one country every other week, easiest ones first? Hipocrite - «Talk» 20:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I was the one who added the relevant tag. Basically, if anyone has any knowledge about other countries, they should add them. Otherwise, if you want to organize your suggestion, great.
- Yep, its americocentric.1Z 00:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Frankly this article is pathetic, whoever wrote it seems to have no clue that there's a big gay world out there beyond the United States. Whoever corrects this should probably start by writing about the Muslim world. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aussie Jim (talk • contribs) 16:48, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Title
In accordance with LGBT rights movement, I'm moving this page to LGBT rights opposition. Exploding Boy 20:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] LGBT social movements opposition
This article should be renamed from LGBT rights opposition to LGBT social movements opposition to mirror LGBT social movements
[edit] U.S. Army
Even though i agree with the writer of this section, I have to say that it is VERY um... non-neutral. I don't know the big word. Anyways, someone should change it.--DaGrob 19:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vegan Reich anarchists?
I don't personally see Vegan Reich as anarchists, and I know many other anarchists don't either. They are a confusing mix of anarchist and fascist ideologies. There are definitely elements of anarchism in their ideas, but calling for a dictatorship to murder non-vegans, gays and such is in no way consistent with anarchism. It's like saying Marxists are anarchists because we want the same end goals (a stateless, classless society). The main difference between Marxists and anarchists is that Marxists believe in seizing and exercizing state power to do it, just like Vegan Reich wants to (and honestly, the end goals of Vegan Reich, which includes killing queers is not the same as any major modern anarchist's end goals AFAIK). Unless a source is provided that says Vegan Reich is specifically anarchist, I think that part should be removed. Ungovernable ForceGot something to say? 07:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Since no one made any objections I took the liberty of removing the info on Vegan Reich and hardline. Ungovernable ForceGot something to say? 06:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Anarchists and other Opposition
I removed a section on "anarchists and other opposition." The article erroneously claims that anarchists oppose LGBTQ rights by opposing all marriage, heterosexual marriage as well. Apart from being an entirely un-cited claim, other than a link to anarchism as a philosophy, the article is misleading. It reduces queer liberation movements to marriage, and then it confuses many anarchists who oppose all marriage, as a coercive institution, with people who specifically oppose gay marriage as a homophobic stance. The anarchist movement includes some of the earliest supporters of queer rights, including Emma Goldman. The contemporary anarchist movement includes many queer individuals; it also overwhelmingly supports queer liberation. If anyone is going to make a claim to the contrary, it better be well-cited.--Begintheend (talk) 20:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Libertarian Party
I noticed Libertarians were included in this list as being somehow opposed to gays and lesbians...because they do not support ENDA. If you read the Libertarian party platform, you will see that they support gay marriage (which both major parties do not), support adoption by gays, support ending the don't ask don't tell policy, among other things. If Libertarians are to be included in this list for political reasons (by partisan Democrats), then the Democrat Party belongs on this list for not supporting gay marriage. It seems that marriage is a bigger issue and it would be hypocritical to leave the Dems out if the criteria for being on the list is not supporting 100% of gay rights issues. I removed the Libertarians from this article because of the hypocrisy.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 20:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
