Talk:Latino Muslims

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To-do list for Latino Muslims:
  • Include more verifiable sources from newspaper articles, etc.
  • Expand section on reasons for conversion by Latinos.
  • Lengthen paragraph on Latino Muslim organizations.
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[edit] Factors for conversion

"Factors for Conversion" is unnecessary and POV, removed.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.211.252.114 (talk • contribs)

It is from another Wikipedia article, which attributes it to an unnamed scholar. If it is indeed from a scholarly publication, then it is not POV and ought to remain. For now, the removal drastically reduces the content of the article, so I will restore it until we can get more properly-sourced info.--Rockero 15:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This article lies

What the hell is this article about?

"Latino Muslims are Latinos whose religion is Islam. Latino Muslims are also known as Hispanic Muslims. Latino Muslims have a long history in Spain[1]. Islam was first introduced to Latinos by the Moors."

This is false, it's trash. First of all "Hispanic" and "Latino" are not synonym words, so you should explain that this stupid misunderstanding just applies in the United States.

After this, "Latino Muslims have a long history in Spain". Just LOL. First of all, the ones in Spain were never called "Latino Muslims" (and no, they didn't dance reagetón). If you want, they were Hispanic Muslims, because they were in Hispania, but not, in any case, Latino Muslims.

In addition, these muslims from Spain were kicked more than 500 years ago, and the "Latino muslims" that nowadays claim to be their heirs have nothing to do with them.

"Islam was first introduced to Latinos by the Moors". Yeah sure, 1200 years ago Spain was full of "Latinos", and "Mexican-Americans", and "Chicanos", and they were eating tacos and drinking tequila when the muslims came and converted them to the Islam.

What's all this trash about, seriously? There were muslims in Spain, but they were kicked 500 years ago. The Spanish-speaking people that nowadays are Muslims, are just like those blacks from the US, that have recently converted to Islam as a personal choice, not because they have any muslim ancester nor any tradition in their family of being muslim.

And LATINO is a contraction of LATINOAMERICANO!! Therefore in Spain there are no LATINOS, but Spaniards or Hispanics (inhabitants of Hispania). Stop spreading the ignorance in the Wikipedia please. Onofre Bouvila 17:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge?

Wouldn't this be better merged into Islam? I can't see the content expanding much more than this.

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME 23:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know. Refer to the Latino template. Maybe better merged with an article about Hispanics and Religion. --JuanMuslim 1m 03:04, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't see the point to this article, barely any information. I do however agree that it should be/could be inside Hispanics and Religion. ☭ moizkhan 21:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] And the point of this article is...?

You could just as easily write one line in the Latino article saying "there are muslim latinos." The only reason I can think of to dedicate an entire thread to the existance of a negligable group such as this would be islamic proselytism - which is clearly what is happening here.

Citing (defunct) islamic *missionary* groups like LADO only to remind readers that they "exist" serves little no other purpose than advertisement.

And seriously is there any real reason to go into such depth to report a minority within a minority? Do latino-muslims matter? Are they facing some kind of noteworthy persecution? Do they have a notably different culture worth reporting? Are their numbers large enough to be considered consequential by anyone other than islamic missionaries?

Nothing in this article even begins to suggest that is the case. There is nothing here to talk about. Why not have separate articles on "latino-buddhists" "latino-sikhs" "latino-scientologists" "latino-Stargate SG-1 fans" I'm adding a VFD --67.163.191.97 13:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Just because Christian Spain and Portugal have had a bitter relationship with the Muslim Moor invaders during the 15th century (Reconquest) and that their people are taught to be anti-Muslims ever since, doesn't necessarily mean all Latinos are ignorant of Islam and think that embrace the religion is bad. So what if they're Latinos and practise Islam? Islam is a religion, not a race. There's no Spanish Inquisition now and its not that all of them are bad. So, Latino Muslims deserve to be recognised.

[edit] But wait...

Is this article based on Latino converts to Islam? Several countries in Latin America have a sizeable arabic minority (Lebanese, Syrian and Moroccan). Thre are indeed mosques in the old countries. Maybe a mention of this could be made? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.62.132.173 (talk) 05:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Latin Americans?

I don't think that Latino Americans and Latin Americans are synonymous. Currently, the article begins with "Latino Muslims are Latin Americans whose religion is Islam." --JuanMuslim 1m 15:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)