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[edit] Improvement Drive

The article Culture of Italy has been listed to be improved on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. You can add your vote there if you would like to support the article.--Fenice 14:20, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


I don't agree about the classification of Italian northern dialects as languages.

In any case, notice that: 1) Abruzzo (not Abruzzi, which was an ancient name no longer used) in in central Italy, not in southern one (you can easily check looking at a map); 2) There is not ONE Abruzzese dialect, but two different families: the dialects of L'Aquila province belong to the Oscian-Umbrian family, such as the dialects of Latium, Umbria and Marche (but Pesaro and Urbino), while the dialects of Chieti, Pescara and Teramo provinces belong to the Iapigian family, such as the southern dialects of Puglia.

[edit] Languages of Italy

This article should be reorganized and expanded. The language tree, if we can call it like that, should be reorganized under a single tree. The dialects of Sardinia, Calabria and central Italy should be reorganized and classified accordingly. French, German, Albanian and all the imported languages should be listed at the end of the list. ICE77 -- 195.212.29.67 15:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. After a promising introduction and start it devolves into a list, and a meaningless list at that. What percentages speak these languages and dialects? How is this article, as it is, in any way useful? This is redirected from "Languages of Italy," and I think replacing the list with an actual article would be a significant improvement (see Languages of France, for example). 205.157.110.11 02:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sicilian twice

I don't understand why sicilian is listed twice, I understand that it is still classified as a Italo-Dalmation language/dialect? why is it listed again as another heading. [anon]

my question exactly. 194.65.103.1 10:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Possibly because there is no consensus (see Ethnologue entry) on whether or not Sicilian is part of the "Southern Romance" group (with Sardinian & Corsican), or the "Italo Western group" like most idioms spoken on the continent. However, I'm not sure this justifies Sicilian being listed twice. I'll try to fix this since Wikipedia uses Ethnologue and ISO standard ratings to categorize languages and put out new versions of Wikipedia. It only makes sense to apply it here as well. --Zulux1 07:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map Correction Needed

The Languages of Italy map with this article shows a red dot in the Province of Foggia with a line connecting it to Arbëresh. This is incorrect. The red dot in Foggia is the location of the towns of Faeto and Celle di San Vito. The residents there speak a dialect of the Franco-Provençal language called Faetar (or Faitare). This is also the name of a Franco-Provençal "dialect group", one of seven major language divisions which divides its 40+ individual dialects. (It was brought to Foggia in the XIVe century by soldiers from the Bresse region of France (in the department of Ain.) (Also see the Franco-Provençal language article or the brief statements under Province of Foggia or the towns for more on this subject.) Thanks in advance for fixing it. Charvex 10:40, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger

IS the article going to be merged with Languages of Italy? Is there voting going on? Thanks. --Dakrismeno (talk) 13:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC) Since nobody replied to my question, I have tidied up a bit by removing repetitions and putting the long language list to the end in order to improve legibility. I've also moved some text out of the intro and into the body of the article. --Dakrismeno (talk) 17:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)