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1 Major Rewrite
2 Gallery edits
3 North Halstead or Northalstead?
4 Map
5 Population
6 it's Lake View, TWO WORDS!
7 Totom Pole
8 Coordinates
9 First gay village?
10 Photos
11 Hetero Party Atmosphere?
12 Addison Street name

[edit] Major Rewrite

I gutted and rewrote the entire article and expanded it to three times the size. I also added a dozen photos I took in Lakeview. --Gerald Farinas 22:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gallery edits

I changed the caption for the last picture in the gallery. It was incorrectly labeled Clark and Belmont, when in reality it is Clark and Aldine (3 blocks north of Belmont) I also added a bit about a restaurant featured in the picture. DCM 16:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the addition of the Lake View Presbyterian Church image in the gallery. --Gerald Farinas 00:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] North Halstead or Northalstead?

which is the proper or offical spelling? Ace-o-aces 15:12, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Answer: Northalsted is the correct, proper, and official spelling. Everything is run together here. It's Lakeview, not Lake View. And it's Boystown, not Boys Town. The same is true with Northalsted. (BTW, there's only one "a" in Halsted Street.) --216.220.72.15 00:13, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Correction: Northalsted, Boystown, are marketing or cultural denotations. None have any official standing. It is true these are one word names, and not two as mentioned. The only Official denotation is "Lake View". It is two seperate words and spelled as such as the name of the official community area ( of Chicago's 77). There is just a difference between what people think and commonly use versus what is official. (Gary Joseph 07:21, 7 February 2006 (UTC))

Northalstead does have official standing. Boystown is the unofficial name of the area Ace-o-aces 14:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

There is no place called Northalsted. There is a street in Chicago named Halsted and to describe a particular area, the term North or South is applied. If someone reading this article visits Chicago and asks for Northalsted, they will be identified as an Out-of-towner or Foreigner. Rkm3612 12:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Please explain what "official standing" Northalsted has? The term is simply corporate marketing bull (and bad grammar) foisted upon the area by the Northalsted Merchant's Association. NO ONE who lives in the neighborhood actually spells it in this lame manufactured fashion. Not that Google is an official arbiter of anything, but there are 4 times more pages with "North Halsted" then "Northalsted." Anyone have a reason why it shouldn't be changed to the official postal spelling of "North Halsted?" Viciouslies 02:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I have no particular attachment o either spelling. All things being equal, I say we go witn the offical postal spelling.Ace-o-aces 03:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Could we possibly get an updated version of this map with (1) more appropriate licensing tags and (2) appropriate changes in spelling, i.e., change East Lakeview to Lake View East? The article should now explain better about naming conventions. --Gerald Farinas 23:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

--Gerald Farinas 18:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Population

If Lakeview is the second most populous Chicago community area, what is the first? --Gerald Farinas 18:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Found it! It's Austin. --Gerald Farinas 18:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] it's Lake View, TWO WORDS!

What is up with this Lakeview as one word business, anyway? I find it annoying that Wikipedia can't figure out how to spell.

Lake View, two words, was a suburb annexed by Chicago. Lake View, two words, is the name of the high school. Lake View, two words, is what the 44th ward alderman refers to on his website.

So, just what bozo is trying to rub out all of Lake View's history by spelling it wrong?

-- Carter (66.158.70.254) 21:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

That's kinda been mentioned already. Please don't delete a whole talk page just to say one thing. Thanks! -- Crnk Mnky 00:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

It was mentioned, but that doesn't explain why it's happening.

I grew up in Lake View, and quite frankly I find it offensive, it reeks of all that is wrong with gentrification, people who are busily trying to remake Lake View in their own image & who seem to feel a need to put down those that don't fit in their ideal. It matters because to this day I hear people constantly talking about how the yuppies "cleaned up" Lake View, as if it was some sort of hideous ghetto to begin with, when it wasn't. Lake View always had Wrigley Field, the concert venues like the Metro and Vic, eclectic stores and diverse restaurants, etc. And furthermore, it's just stupid. Would anyone rename Lincoln Park as Lincolnpark, or Logan Square as Logansquare?

- Carter

The city of chicago still spells it with two words. I will change the lead paragraph and infobox to reflect that.Ibadibam (talk) 23:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Totom Pole

Does the Totom pole really deserve it's own section? Ace-o-aces 16:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinates

Ctjf83, what lead you to change the longitude and latitude in the article? The ones I had chosen reflected the approximate geographic center of lakeview. 41.9435° N 87.654161° W It is my understanding that Lakeview extends from Irving Park to diversy and ashland to the lake. Please let me know. Otherwise I'll change it back. Thanks for your other contributions though. Edwardmking 03:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First gay village?

It's unclear to me that Boystown, Chicago was actually the first gay village in the U.S.; The Castro seems to pre-date it, based on the respective articles. But this information is fuzzy. If the claim is true and should be re-added to the article, it needs to be referenced. -- Beland 07:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Its not that it was the first gay villiage, it was the first officially recognized gay villiage. That is, the city actually based their planning around the fact that boystown was populated (mostly) by gays. That's why they put up the rainbow pylons. Here is a ref though [[1]] Ace-o-aces 17:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's an even better ref [[2]] Ace-o-aces 17:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The claim is true and thanks Ace-o-aces for documenting the reference in the article. Gerald Farinas

[edit] Photos

Ok... i think the photography work on this page needs some major help. I'll try to get out and upload some nice photographs. for me, at least, they don't really paint an accurate picture of the neighborhood.

i really like all the references to the street names and historical figures. i added the notes on the civil war soldier camp. what to y'all think??

[edit] Hetero Party Atmosphere?

Someone added, "Wrigleyville is Famous for its heterosexual party atmosphere in no relation to its neighbor Boys Town." This statement needs to be reworded and supported by source information. --Gerald Farinas 17:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The Wrigleyville section overall is very poorly done & contains innappropriate wording and unsupported information. The playwright topic and the reference to Las Mananitas needs to be supported or removed. Also, Las Mananitas is not a "Wrigleyville" establishment. It is very obviously a part of Northalsted. I'm new to editing, but I would be happy to contribute. I am a long time Lake View East resident and community activist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.242.57.42 (talk) 17:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

New or not, feel free to edit as you feel necessary. --Gerald Farinas (talk) 02:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Addison Street name

Addison Street is not named for Joseph Addison, but instead for Dr. Thomas Addison. Check out Streetwise Chicago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.251.78 (talk) 17:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)