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Between 1100 and 750 B.C., little is known of Nubia, but after 750, a new Kushite kingdom appeared at Napata near the Fourth Cataract and rapidly expanded into a huge empire. To the south, Meroe was founded. To the north, Egypt had fallen into fragments under Libyan rulers, and the Kushites extended their control north of Thebes, the cult center of the god Amun in Egypt, who was also the most favored deity of Kush. Piye, most famous of Kush's pharaohs, united the Nile Valley from the Mediterranean to Meroe, creating one of Africa's greatest states. He and his successors are known as Egypt's Twentyfifth Dynasty. One, Taharqo, was a great builder, and the Kushite rulers led Egypt to its last age of outstanding achievement, which reached its peak in the sixth century B.C. But when Kush tried to stop the westward advance of Assyria in Asia, Taharqo and his successor Tanutamani were defeated and expelled from Egypt by 650 B.C. In Nubia and Sudan, Kush continued to be a major state for a thousand years.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.38.88.131 (talk) on 11 May 2003

Why is this information in the Talk page instead of in the article page? -- Zoe

[edit] written language?

Why was this edit accepted as gospel? Is there any evidence that the Kush had a written language of their own at the same time the Egyptians did? I don't recall a Nubian writing system in competition with cuneiform, hieroglyphics, et al.

Wouldn't you agree there is a semantic difference between:

  • no writings have been found

and

  • no writings have been thought to exist

Additionally, other drive-by edits from this user have been consistently reverted. It would be great if anyone knows an anthropologist out there (or has the time for research over this small edit) that can confirm whether these people were thought to have a written language that has no surviving artifacts or whether they just simply didn't have a written language. --DRolfe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.151.51 (talk) on 22 July 2005

In reference to Zoe's question, the textbook "World Civilizations: The Global Experience" (Longman, 3rd edition) states that "By the year 1000 B.C.E. (sic.), the independent kingdom of Kush was flourishing along the upper Nile. It possessed a form of writing derived from Egyptian hieroglyphics (and which has not yet been fully deciphered) and mastered the use of iron." (p. 89) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.246.171.106 (talk) 20 September 2006

To the man who questions whether or not the Kushites had a writiing system of their own, let me ask you this. You know the civilization of Kush existed, right? Tell me then, is it possible to run a civilized society without a written script? Has there ever a civilization that existed that did not have a writing system of any kind? yes or no. I would really to hear your answer on this. Is that possible?---Kim

Meroe and Egypt are really synonymous in regard to the people’s ethnicity. They were both Habeshas.

- Habeshas?! LOL! sorry, They were not Habeshas. One doesn't start seeing habeshsa until the time of the Axumite empire. Egypt and Cush existed long before the Axumites even existed! No, in terms Egyptians and Cushites were of different, but related ethnicities, neither of which is Habesha.

[edit] Disambiguation needed

The proper noun "Kush" definately needs disambiguation. It is

[1] (apparently) the name of a region in ancient Egypt. See Kush

[2] also of a widely venerated character in Hindu religious legend. See: Kush (Hindu) and Kusha

[3] Furthermore, it is possibly the name of a Biblical character as well, a grandson of Noah.

[4] And, "Kush" is part of the given names of certain Cannabis Indica/Sativa L. strains. e.g.: Purple Kush, Orange Kush, O.G. Kush.

so there is need for proper disambiguation, and for the title of the page to reflect content. Hence the names I have suggested, also the disambiguation page I have created; see Kush (disambiguation)

Administrators. please see the point in this and do the needful

-Anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.205.237.140 (talk) 18 September 2005

There was something more to see, but ppl. didnt a

[edit] Added a FACT tag to introductory paragraph.

The statement in that paragraph which asserts that the Cushite form of female dominated leadership is "unique in history" is in definite need of citation. Also, in what way was it unique? -- Low Sea (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)