Talk:Kosovo/Republic of Kosovo

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Split off Kosovo

I have tentatively created this article on the RoK proper, per Talk:Kosovo#Split.3F. This is intended as a "China / Republic of China" type solution to address NPOV concerns. This article being on the Republic per se, the country infobox is evidently warranted, while the Kosovo article can be about the region regardless of its status (like Italian peninsula vs. Republic of Italy). dab (𒁳) 13:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Redirect

I'v redirected this article to Kosovo, in accordance with the concensus on Talk:Kosovo. 2007apm (talk) 19:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The redirect doesn't work. Gugganij (talk) 11:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
There was no such consensus. Discussion is ongoing at Talk:Kosovo#Split.3F. Superm401 - Talk 16:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Intro

How about a rewrite of the intro, since the article has been moved? BalkanFever 04:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. More work is obviously still needed. Superm401 - Talk 04:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Redundancy

Please help summarize the history/culture/demographic information, so we can focus this article on the self-declared partially recognized state, and the legal and administrative structure thereof. If I remove something that isn't anywhere else, it's still in the history. Just copy it to the summary page (e.g Geography of Kosovo). Superm401 - Talk 04:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Future Perfect at Sunrise suggested completely removing the history section from here, in favor of having it only at Kosovo. This is an option worth considering, though I would prefer to have a brief summary here if possible. If we do remove the history from here, it may make sense to remove other sections. Superm401 - Talk 08:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Culture section

Zscout370 significantly expanded the culture section. I disagree with this. Most culture information should remain at Kosovo, because it is related to the region, not the declared state. The Republic of Kosovo obviously didn't organize the culture. To avoid redundancy, most such information shouldn't be here, so I've undone this edit. Superm401 - Talk 07:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

And this is what I do not get. What is the difference between the culture of this state than of Kosovo, the region? They share the same history, same background, so why not cover it here? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 07:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Because the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija also has the culture of Kosovo. Both groups agree Kosovo is a region, so we cover the "regional" (not specific to state or province) info there. Superm401 - Talk 08:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
But if we want to make this article comprehensive about the state, which I know people will wish to look up, we need to have a longer section about culture. I'll try and see what I can do to this article similar to how I brought Belarus up to the featured standard, but I honestly do not know what I can do. No offense to you Superm, but this is frustrating to deal with. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I know it's frustrating, but I think this is the best solution. What we want to do is send people interested in culture, etc. to Kosovo, and send people interested in governance here. Superm401 - Talk 08:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
It is frustrating because you care not about consensus. Do you want to say that the Republic of Kosova has no culture? All this has been deleted by you. --Tubesship (talk) 08:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I never said anything of the sort. I didn't remove the health section like you claimed before (that was Zscout370), and I didn't remove the culture either. I shortened it; as I said, I prefer we keep brief summaries here, and refer people to Kosovo and the subarticles for more info. Superm401 - Talk 08:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
But why to you make this distincion between Kosovo and the region? Kosovo is the region! It is not like Macedonia (Greece) and FYROM! --Tubesship (talk) 08:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
The distinction is between the declared state and region, not Kosovo and the region. Superm401 - Talk 09:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
It is hard to assume good faith in Superm, even if he is an admin, after he breached consensus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#Split_completed --Tubesship (talk) 08:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC) BTW: I tried to put back some stuff but got this message: "The edit could not be undone due to conflicting intermediate edits." What does that mean? --Tubesship (talk) 08:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Consensus is not unanimity. Regarding, "The edit could not be undone", you can still access the history and get old text manually. Superm401 - Talk 08:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

What's going on here?

Why isn't there an article here? The "Kosovo" article IS NOT about the RoK. I would like to link from the Kosovo article to here, if the reader wants more info on the RoK. And then after there is an article here, we can put the summary in the "Kosvo" article. Beam 02:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Simply because it was a content fork (WP:FORK). Regards, --Asteriontalk 10:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Logic has lost out to an Edit Warring editor

I have lost patience with Husonds incessant ignorance and POV pushing.

It's actually disgusting. I've presented the facts, but to no avail. I make this section in a last ditch effort for someone, anyone, who has the patience to deal with a POV Pushing type to do so. I just can't anymore. Beam 17:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)