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Contents 1 Chronology 2 Quintus Lucius Quietus 3 Casualties 4 Kitos? 5 The question of casualties

[edit] Chronology

The article reads, "But Turbo was himself executed upon special orders sent from Rome, and the lives of the brothers were saved." The article seems to place this around 117/8 CE. Indeed, the war lasted, according to the 1st article sentence, from 115 - 117 CE. However, the article on Turbo says he lived to at least 122 CE and was a good friend of both Trajan and Hadrian, making it unlikely they would send special orders to execute him. This does not add up.

[edit] Quintus Lucius Quietus

Is there a source for the name form "Quintus Lucius Quietus"? I found only evidence for "Lusius" or "Lucius Quietus". WolfgangRieger 21:26, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Changed "Palestine" to Iudaea, as the Province of Iudaea was not renamed Syria Palaestina until after 135 ad. User:Josephconklin 24 February 2006

[edit] Casualties

As per Humus_sapiens, I posted the casualty info that I could find. Anyone else that can add to either Roman, Greek, or Jewish losses, please update and post scholarly reference. Thank you. --Jtpaladin 20:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

The numbers you have posted are incredibly unrealistic. If those are the only ones you could find then I would suggest either not including them or including qualifiers and adding ambiguity about their accuracy.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 18:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Moshe, those numbers came from the Jewish Encyclopedia and were approved by Humus_sapiens. Is the Jewish Encyclopedia lying? No other source has been located that disputes those numbers and you've been here long enough to know that multiple citations are not needed to support a fact. Your actions are disgusting and unscholarly. If you have a problem with this matter, I suggest you speak to Humus_sapiens. Jtpaladin 14:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Those numbers do indeed seem quite unrealistic. While I will not completely discount them, I think additional source(s) would help confirm their legitimacy. My reasoning is that by that time in history, the romans had already become quite hostile toward Judaism, and the numbers may be exaggerated as a result of this hostility. Medevilenemy (talk) 00:24, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kitos?

Why is it called the Kitos War? What's Kitos? --AW 16:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that it is a Hebrew disruption of the name Quietus - The main enemy of them in this war.

Thanks --AW (talk) 18:18, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The question of casualties

82.119.85.227 (talk) 01:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC) Those indicating the number of casualties in article are having for sure a quite strange attitude. Those numbers are not only seaming but sure are obviously exaggerated from the historian and senator Dio Cassius – that can be because of his hostility towards both Jewish and Greeks, and because also his works are more literary than historical and scientific. The island of Cyprus is quite small and having today population of less than 800 thousand, pointing 240 thousand dead would be making population growing only two or three times until now which view the growth of population in Europe and Mediterranean is absurd. Same can be said about Cyrenaic – mountain peninsula with few Greek colonies.

In the same time why not indicating the Jewish casualties which official Jewish sources are pointing – that is of 1,2 million of Jewish dead (they are pointed in Jewish Bible), the number is seaming quite realistic as the Jewish Diaspora was growing incredibly fast with dispersion of Jews – as free populations or as slaves, and the number of proselytes was quite high (like every Antique religion Jewish one though staying quite undeveloped was finding adepts among different populations) – as a Jewish author was saying “because every land and every sea are full of thee”. The case of revolt can be sure similar to the Sicilian revolts of slaves which were establishing their states on island for few years. It is sure anyway that the number of Jews in empire was already then very high. They were actually already pointed more from their religious and not much their unclear ethnical definitions. The hostility towards the Roman power was also caused from religious reasons. Jewish populations were reaching in empire number of few millions.

The answer of Roman armies towards a revolt of the kind was always severe and would be directed towards any Jewish populations in empire – able of supporting revolt. Roman policy was though always directed towards having also a political solution for decreasing the different tensions in the state.