Talk:Kingdom of Italy (1861–1946)

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Kingdom of Italy (1861–1946) was a good article, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Delisted version: May 19, 2007

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Contents 1 Requested move 1.1 Survey 1.1.1 Survey - in support of the move 1.1.2 Survey - in opposition to the move 1.2 Discussion 2 Could someone help me out on writing this page? 3 WPFC Assessment 4 Reference comment 5 GA 6 Good Article Review 7 Copyedit 8 Fair use rationale for Image:Pho 203x275 propaganda5.gif 9 Norge N1 10 Fair use rationale for Image:Referendum Italy.png 11 Fair use rationale for Image:Southern-europe-1940.JPG

[edit] Requested move

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 08:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Could someone help me out on writing this page?

I'm new on Wikipedia and I started this page. It is currently rated at "Stub" level, could others help improve the quality of the document. I started it because there was no direct article on the Kingdom of Italy of the House of Savoy which was a major European power in the early to mid twentieth century. I have been trying as best as I can with available information on Wikipedia to improve the quality of this article, and I thank those who have contributed to this page. But I think this document should be improved by others who believe it is not done well.

Also it doesn't really matter whether the title of the whole document is renamed "Kingdom of Italy" from what it is now "Kingdom of Italy (Savoy)". The Savoy Kingdom is the most well known and most legitimate to claim the title Kingdom of Italy as an article because the other major Italian kingdoms were the Lombard Kingdom, which only comprised northern Italy and the Napoleon-run state which also only was composed of the north. (See Kingdom of Italy (Napoleonic)). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by R-41 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

I don’t agree with everything you wrote—specifically, I am not quite happy about Garibaldi being described as left-wing in the context of the risorgimento: if indeed it was you that wrote that caption. (By that I don’t mean to denigrate him. A hero and an attractive figure. But I think I understand why various Mazzinians insisted on leaving the thousand in Tuscany rather than having to fight under a royal flag.) But since noone has said it so far, I will: Great work! Thanks! —Ian Spackman 17:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Well again, I'm new to Wikipedia and I actually am pretty fresh at this topic so I'm bound to make mistakes. I'm writing this article because of my interest in how fascism came to power in Italy and the fact that one of my grandfathers and his relatives came from Susa, Italy to Canada around 1910. Upon looking up Kingdom of Italy I found no clear site that mentioned the Savoy Kingdom, which was extremely dissappointing, so I started one. So far I have been reading a recent book published in 1997 about the Kingdom of Italy, its description of Garibaldi as compared to other Italian politicians like Cavour and King Emmanuel. I appreciate you correcting me on that and I will remove the term "left-wing revolutionary" to describe Garibaldi and change it to simply "revolutionary. Judging by the knowledge you have and that you are the first people to comment to my address for help, I assume that you might be the one who is adding more details also, that is good, but I am finding it increasing difficult to read some long titles that are not relevant to the article, such as having the long, official form of the name of the British Empire, which has been changed in the article to say the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland". I don't think that this is necessary, if you are trying to put a link to the British Empire that existed before the breakaway of Ireland, you can still have the link, but put the in short-form "British Empire" into the link so that the sentences don't become too long with information not directly related to the topic. If it's not you who is doing that I just hope the person who did extend some of the titles reads the information above. Otherwise I am glad that you are helping me get my facts straight and I would really like it if you and other people could add more information especially on the long "Liberal Period" section which would working alone take me a long time to get done. I really hope this article get get up from being a stub to being recognized as being a good article, anyone who can help do this deserves my deepest gratidude. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.95.131.26 (talk) 04:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

I forgot to sign in when putting the above comment in. I've been having trouble with finding out how to link my user name to the discussion board.

Relax! You are doing well. Cheers —Ian Spackman 14:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Could someone add some information about Prime Minister Giovanni Giolotti. I've put a lot of information down already but I'm busy trying to shorten what's already in the there and make it concise, if someone could fill in the gap about Giolotti that would be a real help.

[edit] WPFC Assessment

I have no problem in re-assessing this article from Stub to B class, and nominating the article for possible GA-class. I have also made a few changes to the infobox in keeping with WPFC guidelines. The only recommendation that I can make is that you look for some extra references. - 52 Pickup 20:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reference comment

Looking very promising so far. But the reference section needs to be splitting into "Notes" and "References/Sources". Notes (what we usually call "inline citations" or, more confusingly, just "references") are supposed to be written in shorthand (Smith (1958) p. 45). Writing out the full name, title, year of publishing, publisher and where it was printed for every single note is just overdoing it and makes them that much harder to read. Leave the full info for the list of sources instead.

Peter ^Isotalo 14:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

That was closer to standards, but still retaining a few oddities. One only uses "pp." for notes covering more than one page, otherwise it's just "p.". Parenthesis shouldn't be used for notes unless to differentiate two works by the same author with the year of publishing; forexample "Doe (1967)" and "Doe (1978)". And you don't need to include any information about sources (author's name, ISBN, etc) in the notes if you already have them in the separate list of sources. Not even once.

Peter ^Isotalo 08:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA

I have reviewed this article in accordance with the Good Article (GA) criteria. There are seven main criteria that the article must comply with to pass:

1. Well-written: Pass
2. Factually accurate: Pass
3. Broad: Pass
4. Neutrally written: Pass
5. Stable: Pass
6. Well-referenced: Pass
7. Images: Pass

I have concluded that, in my opinion, the article has passed all categories and I therefore award it GA status. --Eurocopter tigre 16:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article Review

Although the editor above means well, I don't think this article qualifies and have asked for a review accordingly. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 14:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

By a vote of 7-1, the GA status of this article has been delisted for failure to meet GA criteria. The full review discussion can be seen here. Once the issues have been addressed and the article is brought up to standards, it can be renominated. Thank you for your work so far, and good luck with future edits.

Regards, LaraLove^T/_C 05:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyedit

I have copedited the article to improve readability, and to fix various grammatical, spelling and formatting errors. This is an excellent article, but needed a thorough review to improve readability. There were many long, confusing run-on sentences, while some other sentences lacked principal verbs. The language was at times more complicated than necessary, and at other times, less formal than is appropriate for an encyclopaedia. In some places points were made so emphatically as to appear to violate WP:NPOV. I have also fixed the headings to conform to WP:MSH. I hope that the various authors of this article accept these changes in the spirit in which they are intended: to help improve Wikipedia, and not as a criticism of anyone's previous efforts. Ground Zero | t 19:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Pho 203x275 propaganda5.gif

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[edit] Norge N1

This was not an Italian aircraft, this was an private zeppliner built in Italy for [[Roald Amundsen], the Italian Pilot and an American explorer. This should be made perfectly clear in the articel. --62.89.115.59 (talk) 18:08, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Referendum Italy.png

Image:Referendum Italy.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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— Save_Us_229 18:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Southern-europe-1940.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)