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[edit] Ban in the US
Jared Diamond in Collapse said that we ban Kangaroos meat because "ee find kangaroos cute, and because a Congressman's wife heard they were endangered." Anybody know the story behind this? Is the US Kangaroo meat ban in the US due to a delusional wife putting pressure on her idiot husband? --71.192.116.13 04:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Haven't heard the story but no doubt true. There is a common misconception that kangaroos are endangered. In fact there have never been more kangaroos in Australia. Much of the inland parts of the Eastern half of the continent are underpinned by a large aquifer known as the 'Great Artesian Basin' where traditionally, ranchers and farmers could sink a borehole and have unlimited water flow to the surface to be used in cattle troughs, and often just flowing away to form artificial wetlands. This, and the felling of much of the Eastern forests to form grazing lands has provided a huge abundance of previously unavailable food for kangaroos leading to a population explosion. Thus culling is often practiced, and instead of leaving the corpses to rot in the paddocks, they are increasingly being culled for food. The flavour is somewhat like venison. You know you aren't eating beef or lamb. I believe a similar trend to 'game' meats is being experienced in the USA with farmed Bison meat etc becoming available.--MichaelGG 10:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
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- According to this article, only California has the ban, which is likely to be overturned.
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- http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21831278-1702,00.html --58.107.102.215 03:24, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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- probably the same people who eat cute fluffy white lambs, adorable pink pigs, soft doe-eyed calves. Australian Aborigines ate kangaroo, and often relied on it as a staple meat, for 50,000 years. Get over it.
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I do beleive at least one (maybe two or three) species of the 69 species of kangaroo are endangered. Some are threatened. Most are near theatened or vulnerable. Sone are also in the least concern category. I have no opinion on eating kangaroos at all, though. Most species are thriving though, anyway and you are right there have never really been more. I am not an Aussie from down under. Sorry about the long line of text, something is wrong with my computer --RayquazaDialgaWeird2210 (talk) 23:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Product Section - Ref#6
This source is a press release from the livestock industry trying to sell kangaroo meat. The stats might be correct, but I think this really needs a better source since this group is certainly not NPOV. Bob98133 13:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion
Article could be usefully expanded, particularly on production details and statistics as well as comparison to grazing livestock. This ref has a lot of useful detail, I would do it but don't have time right now: An industry that's under the gun Rexparry sydney 07:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cooking Methods
Mentioned in the article is the best way to cook kangaroo meat (raw to medium raw), but through my own experience with frequently cooking kangaroo meat, I've found that a slow cooker makes it very tender and juicy. Perhaps something to that effect could be mentioned within the article.
Also, buying kangaroo meat tends to be cheaper than sheep/pig/cow meat. Etimodnar 08:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately without a source it can't. As for the cost part, I presume it depends where you live. I'm guessing that's Australia. It's probably not the case in much of the rest of the world. Another factoid which I don't know how easy it is to source is that most commercial kangaroos tends to be fairly poor quality. The way the industry operates (supported by the above link under a gun) is that there is incentive for hunters to shoot the biggest kangaroos ignoring that these are usually the oldest and toughest ones, usually males (of course this is good from management perspective) so the meat is correspondingly fairly poor quality Nil Einne 22:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kangaroo over Cattle
Why do we even eat cattle? Is it because that is a tradition that has followed europeans to australia and is simple and econmical? Why don't we farm kangaroos instead? I think we should phase out cows and phase in kangaroos as a meat of choice. I mean there perfectly fine there's nothing wrong with kangaroo meat so what need do we really have for cows when our native animals can meet all these needs? TeePee-20.7 00:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
There is, in fact, a swelling of green advocacy for replacing cattle consumption with roo, as the sheep, goat and cow populations produce tons of methane, while kangaroos produce none. Efforts to isolate the bacteria believed to cause this phenomenon are ongoing, with the intention of introducing them to other species. but there is no guarantee these efforts will produce a desired result. Reducing the cultivation of other livestock in favor of free range kangaroo, on the other haand, is sure to reduce the carbon load, unless we do something really stupid to wipe out the bacteria mentioned above. 18:50, 21 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bustter (talk • contribs)
[edit] Kangaroo Species
As soon as I read this article, there was something wrong with it. It said, "Any of the the three species of kangaroo". Pardon me, but aren't there over 60 species of kangaroo? (69 I think.) Or if they are just referring to the three main types of kangaroo, the western grey kangaroo, eastern grey kangaroo, or red kangaroo. If that is the case, then there is nothing wrong with it. I was wondering if I could edit that. --RayquazaDialgaWeird2210 (talk) 23:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- There are around 60 species in their family and four in their genus according to their article (Kangaroo). It's off-topic in their article, so I removed it. Royalbroil 23:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Kangaroo Meat Scandal
There should be something in the article about the 'roo in the stew' meat substitution scandal in the early 80s, the effects on beef exports, etc.--121.45.0.223 (talk) 06:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Contradiction
There's a contradiction that needs to be worked out. The Production section starts out with:
- Kangaroo is not farmed.[1] Kangaroo meat comes entirely from professional culling operations where the animals are head or heart-shot in the wild.
The Products section then goes on to say:
- Kangaroo farming is a substantially more environmentally friendly meat industry than present sheep or cattle farming: kangaroos require less feed than placental stock, are well-adapted to drought, do not destroy the root systems of native grasses in the way that sheep do, and have much less impact on Australia's fragile topsoils. However as of 2004, the traditional regulatory restrictions on the sale of kangaroo meat in the Australian domestic market make kangaroo farming economically unattractive. Nevertheless, the industry is worth around A$200 million annually.
Clearly, these can't both be true. How do we resolve the contradiction? —CKA3KA (Skazka) (talk) 21:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
