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AFAIK the VW Beetle was the first "Kammback" in history. ...because the design violates the core principles of Herr Kamm?

The old 1980´s Lancia Y10 a Kammback?. I didn´t pay enough attention. I will next time I see one of those (now) rare cars in the street. If I have my Camera with me, I promise a picture with the Kammback section.Randroide 19:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

If the Lancia Y10 is a Kammback, then isn't every station wagon ever made also a Kammback?66.77.124.61 02:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

The VW type I (a.k.a. as "Beetle I"), this car had the "half teardrop" shape that Kammback showed to be suboptimal.
The VW type I (a.k.a. as "Beetle I"), this car had the "half teardrop" shape that Kammback showed to be suboptimal.
Ford C-Max. What about a gallery of Kammbacks?.
Ford C-Max. What about a gallery of Kammbacks?.

If the definition of Kammback is a cut off teardrop shape at 50% cross section area, then the VW is not a Kammback because it is not a tear drop, it is more like a dome. The Ford C-Max is not a kammback because the cut off is like 80%, not 50%.

I've tried to offer a way of explaining the confusion to the reader, by rewording the definition. It seems that the 50% point, in particular, is either controversial or at least poorly understood or measured. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 21:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Every mention uses "Kammback" except one "Kamm-back"; I changed it to match the rest. Thedoorhinge 01:19, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kammback cars in racing

I'm interested in discovering the earliest instances of the Kammback rear end on racing cars. The Cunningham C-4R sports racing cars, designed and built by Briggs Cunningham in the early 1950s, were the most successful of his attempts to win the Le Mans 24 hour race with an all-American car (although he never did realise this ambition). One of the C-4Rs had a Kammback body (C-4RK). This car retired from the 1952 race, but finished 10th in the 1953 race. It was comfortably the fastest car of the field, in both races, and appreciably quicker in a straight line than the otherwise identical C-4Rs. There have been many more recent instances of Kammback (or Kamm-tail) bodywork on production cars and their racing equivalents, notably on the Ferrari GTO, Aston Martin DB4 and AC Cobra coupe, but I cannot find any examples prior to the Cunningham of 1952. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drivers71 (talk • contribs) 10:22, August 30, 2007 (UTC)