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[edit] Junias
I moved the content of the article Junias here because Junia is the female name and more accepted by NT scholars, such as the NRSV. --JBJ 20:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Singer
Junia is also a singer. http://www.a-cd.de/detail.php?id=6741 --Easyas12c 16:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I've replaced "feminists" with "some Christians", which I feel is far more accurate. That "Junia" was a woman is generally accepted by most mainline Christians as well as mainstream Biblical scholars, and it's certainly not an interpretation limited to feminists.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.114.238.29 (talk)
It might be more accurate to say that most Christians understand (and have historically understood) the name to refer to a woman who was an apostle, but that egalitarian/feminist scholars have made a great deal of this in recent times.
With a cursory reading of this article I can see a number of minor errors and misunderstandings -- Unless anyone objects I'll attempt a major edit sometime soon (possibly early next week), as I've spent a good deal of time studying Romans 16.7, and I have a lot of the relevant books with me. 146.82.111.234 05:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC) (The above was posted by me before I signed in) Demmeis 05:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Icon of Junia
The icon illustrating Junia would be powerful evidence of her veneration as a woman, if it was made centuries ago. St. Junia has apparently been recognized by the Orthodox churches as a saint for many centuries. On the other hand, the icon could be a relatively recent piece, in which case it is no evidence at all to support the interpretation of Romans 16.7.
So when was it painted or created? The file info implies it was some decades ago, as it says the copyright expired after the death of the author plus 70 years i.e. at least 70 years ago. But there is no info about the author's identity, date of death, or indeed any info about the origins of the icon. The link to the Orthodox Church site where it appears yields no info about its origin either.
This photo appeared in the local newspaper on August 9th, 2007 (Toronto Star) in an article about St. Junia, but without attribution. Checking on the internet, I saw the icon is widely associated with discussions about her, but never attributed. (The above is an edited version of a comment I posted on the file image site on August 9th, 2007, but there were no responses. I hope re-posting it here with the article, in somewhat revised form, doesn't break any Wikipedia rules. If so, please accept my apologies.)Greg Dyer 02:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Junia
Romans 16 begins with 16 verses of greeting to 26 people by name and others by association. 7)"Greet Andronicas and Junias, my kinsman and my fellow-prisoners, who are distinguished among the apostles, who were also in Christ before me." DR This is not an enumeration of apostles. Robert D. (69.153.169.63 07:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)).
- But many commentators believe it is a mention of two apostles. Peter Ballard 08:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
