Talk:Jonathan Creek

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Contents 1 Caroline Quentin 2 Guest cast 3 Plot summaries 4 Duffle coat 5 J.S. Bach?

[edit] Caroline Quentin

Why did she leave the sinking ship at the end of series three? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.19.198 (talk) 13:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Guest cast

I think the distinction between actors better known for comedy playing straight roles and other guest actors was useful. Dbromage 02:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot summaries

Anyone else think there should be full plot summaries on this page? We have the spolier warning in place, why not reveal the mysteries rather than force people to watch each episode to see what happens? SJH 23:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed but they have listed series 5 as the last few episode of series 4. There are six episodes to a series, not three.

No, "they" have listed the series as they were made and broadcast. The article quite clearly states that series 4 and 5 were each made up of three episodes. Series 4 was broadcast in 2003 and 5 in 2004. Source I have also removed the expansion tag as Wikipedia is not a place for extended plot summaries and somebody has already taken the time to write short summaries. Brad 22:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I've got to disagree there. I distinctly remember at the time that Series 4 was split into two segments, each made up of 3 episodes. I think it was something to do with the scripts being late for the last three so they couldn't get them filmed in time. Besides, what's called Series 4 and 5 on the page are just Series 4 in all the DVD boxsets.Newda898 17:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

The BBC programme catalogue explicitly states that they are two different series and with almost a year between the broadcasts it's difficult to justify calling them "segments". I can't see anything about the scripts being late on Media Guardian, Broadcast Now or Digital Spy. Screenonline says "four series" and the official site just lists the episodes without mentioning series at all. As for the DVD combining them into one series, that doesn't necessarily mean that is how they were supposed to be -- it could just be the BBC making sure people get their monies worth. Finally, this statement from the BBC explicity states that the 2004 series was commissioned after the 2003 series had finished its broadcast.[1] Brad 20:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duffle coat

I'm pretty sure the bit about it being Davis' own coat comes from The World of Jonathan Creek, published 1997. Unfortunately, I can't find my copy. Does anyone else have a copy to confirm this? Daibhid C 20:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's said on page 80 in the Behind the Scenes chapter under The Costume Designer "His duffel coat has become a bit of a trademark, and for the first series Alan's own one was used." Newda898 18:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] J.S. Bach?

I'm a bit confused by what

"In keeping with the mysterious allusions that pervade Jonathan Creek's investigations, the name of the series is itself a cryptic translation of the German composer Johann Bach, who in his final composition encoded his own name in the notes of the musical score."

means. Can anybody explain? Bob talk 11:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Johann = German equivalent of Jonathan. Bach = stream (in German) = Creek (synonym of stream). Hardly that cryptic, and just a guess. :) Stephenb (Talk) 11:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, that's quite good, I'd not made the connection. It might be worth explaining that it's a Germanic equivalent rather than a puzzle in the main article - I was expecting it to be an anagram or something to do with the theme tune because of the bit about The Art of Fugue. Bob talk 13:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)