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January 2008

Sheffield station platform

I don't think I'm going to be able make the source verifiable, but just for your edification I've uploaded a bit of the drawing for a few days. I'll remove the comment. Platform 5 cross section http://www.maj.com/gallery/talltim/Other/platform-5.gif Talltim (talk) 14:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that, and I see what you mean. It was just that I had never seen or heard it referred to (and unless you have access to the drawings or took part in the construction, you probably wouldn't know) so that is why I questioned it. ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
No probs, happy new year Talltim (talk) 15:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Same to you :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

historic

Hi. I've just seen your edit to the Yorkshire article. Personally, I feel that "an historic county" makes more sense grammatically than "a historic county". It might also be worth considering that the Yorkshire dialect tends to drop the "h", making "historic" sound like "istoric", and therefore "an" more appropriate than "a". However, I think it is more of a pedantic point than anything else. ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Lol. I like your description an 'istoric. That is true, I cannot argue one bit that phonetically and verbally, an 'istoric is probably the correct version but in writing it should be a historic, a hospital, a hedgehog. Because they are all hard aitches. The only exception I can think is an honour, because it's a soft h.

I'm just trying to keep hold of proper grammar and keep as much as wikipedia as I use and see free from modern grammatical mistakes, particularly the plethora of nouns with capitals. Anyone would think English is turning German. Peanut4 (talk) 15:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

OK. That is fair enough. I thought it best to ask rather than get into an edit war over the "n" :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Ai. I know what you mean about a daft edit war. I'm sure something like this might get changed again. Partly because I expect the 'n' is probably not actually wrong, just that it's not quite as right. Peanut4 (talk) 15:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
That is certainly an interesting (and probably quite right) way of looking at it :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Linux and Wikipedia's approach to pronunciation

Hi,

I see you reverted my change to Linux, in which I removed the ad hoc pronunciation "lin-uks" (while not logged in).

I am a frequent contributor to Wiktionary, where we use standardised pronunciation schemes.

"lin-uks" to me reads as IPA /lɪn•ʌks/, and that does not match the IPA given (the vowel in the second syllable is a schwa). In some accents (including some American accents, "tux" indeed pronounced /təks/, so perhaps my choice of rhyme (for the final syllable) was inappropriate. The problem with ad hoc pronunciations is that they are right for some readers but not for others, while IPA is universally understood (provided you know it, of course). According to Wikipedia's style guide, "Pronunciation in Wikipedia should be given in a way such that phonemic interpretations will not differ depending on the reader's regional dialect. This can be accomplished using the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" Hence the non-IPA pronunciation does not belong here.

True, not everyone knows IPA, but in that case, why does Wikipedia use it? Why not come up with a pronunciation scheme based on respelling, like many American dictionaries do? There is in any case a link to a page on IPA for those who want to find out about it.

For these reasons, I am removing the ad hoc pronunciation again. — Paul G (talk) 13:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your reply. Since you weren't logged in, I just assumed it was some random user removing what I felt (at the time) was an appropriate piece of information. However, I can understand where you are coming from (even if I don't understand IPA) so that is not a problem now. :) ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Tomb Raider: Underworld

Hi. Concerning your recent edits to Tomb Raider: Underworld, I just wondered where you had got your information from regarding the release dates and the extra platforms you added. Also, as Wikipedia is a global site, it is probably best to use autumn, rather than fall, as that is not a globally used term. Thanks :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I go this info from Tomb Raider Chronicles link NickDCXfan (talk)

OK, thanks for that. I hadn't seen the article yet and I've updated the page with the relevant details. ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Rants by Bald Eagle

If you think the rant on Talk:Linux was bad, maybe you should see their rants on Talk:gNewSense. ~~ [Jam][talk] 10:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we need to accept this disruptive behavior on talk pages. -- AdrianTM (talk) 11:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, aside from dragging them up in front of ARV to get them blocked for personal attacks, I really don't know what we can do. ~~ [Jam][talk] 11:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Just weather it out. They're very vocal, but very much a minority. It's odd, normally I take it pretty hard when I get attacked on here but there's something pretty awesome about being singled out for bending the whole project to my iron will every few months on Talk:Linux or the like. Chris Cunningham (talk) 11:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you seem to have become somewhat of a celebrity for having control of the whole project. I feel honoured to be in the presence of such a person :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 13:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Good that you have an "iron" will Chris just put it to good use and do not let it become blind obstinacy. Otherwise it seems you are doing this intentionally because you get to feel awesome by creating unnecessary conflicts. Bald Eeagle (talk) 21:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Please do not use my talk page to start having a rant at Chris. You already do enough of that on Linux-related talk pages. ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Admin delay

Is it just me, or do all the administrators seem to be tied up doing other things, since I don't think any of the requests on the sockpuppet page have been dealt with. ~~ [Jam][talk] 17:45, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:SSP doesn't seem to be much of a priority (one of the reasons I nominated myself to be an admin). In all reality, it really isn't that big of a deal other than the cases get kinda complicated. If it were up to me, I would block some of these people pretty quickly. In short, it isn't as easy to to as some of the other pages (such as WP:3RR) and most admins just don't want to get involved in that area. Give it time, they'll come around...or I'll become an admin: whichever comes first... — BQZip01 — talk 18:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

February 2008

Talk page warning apology

My apologies - I didn't see you had changed the Polish Wikipedia link. In future, please make sure to use an edit summary. Thanks. ~~ [Jam][talk] 12:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, no problems. Hairspray Qeen en (talk) 12:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Dfb9001

Can you look at this user. Possible vandalsim only account. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 21:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm not an administrator, but looking at their only two edits, I can't see that there is anything wrong with this user. ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I've had the user page speedily deleted (I know you blanked it, but best to have it cleared off completely). Unless this user starts actually vandalising Wikipedia, there is no reason to take any further action against their account. ~~ [Jam][talk] 05:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Kara Tointon

hi

there have been several interviews with both concerned regarding their relationship. were both have stated that they HAVE been in a relationship but it ended before 15th January 2004 when it was leaked to the press. I have only just joined Wiki so do not know as yet how to source claims. However, as being a fan of both, if you google either party you will find sources galore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brummie Bee (talk • contribs) 17:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia. I've just done a Google and found an article on Digital Spy about Kara and James splitting up (this isn't relevant to Hannah though, so doesn't need to be on her page.)
However, my point still stands about speculation - unless you can find a valid source to say that Hannah and Dougie dated, that should be left off Wikipedia. ~~ [Jam][talk] 17:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Skype free uk skype to uk landline

I've added a comment to the Skype Talk page. As you say it is indeed not true that calls to UK landlines are free, sorry; it may be that new Skype users get a few free calls? Best wishes 213.208.107.91 (talk) 00:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I had a quick browse around the Skype website, and couldn't find anything about a free calls promotion. While I don't disagree that this could be the case, unless it can be cited, it should probably be left off Wikipedia. ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
When you join you get one free 'test' call. Talltim (talk) 12:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

March 2008

List of characters from Hollyoaks

Please stop moving the character Louise Summers to the departing section. This reliable source says she is staying. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 13:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, the only source I had at the time was the one saying she was leaving. Now that I've been informed she isn't leaving, I won't restore that previous edit. ~~ [Jam][talk] 22:19, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

ClamAV Userbox

Thanks for correcting my ClamAv userbox to ClamAV, it was a typo! - Ahunt (talk) 00:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

PS glad you liked the userbox enough to include it on your own user page! You were the first editor to do so! - Ahunt (talk) 00:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey. No worries :). It's a nice userbox (plus I do use it - so it's helpful in that respect) :D. ~~ [Jam][talk] 07:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I have been trying to make userboxes to let people know what great free open source software there is out there. It all helps to get others to try it out! I have a few more I have made, on my user page. - Ahunt (talk) 12:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

 ??????????

A question of curiosity? Are you doing some intelligence action in wikipedia? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, "intelligence action"? What do you mean? ~~ [Jam][talk] 12:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Are you watching other people's talk page? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I watch many different talk pages. I was watching yours because I left you a question and was awaiting a reply. I noticed one or two discussions which I felt inclined to reply to, hence my edits. ~~ [Jam][talk] 12:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

10 reviews per album

Hello. Could you tell me where I can find this rule? Also, deleting the reviews after the first ten is probably not the best way of doing it as some of those reviews would carry more weight than the ones that were left (for example, I'd consider Guardian and Times reviews as having more weight than the "All Music Guide" in the case of Tangled Up). ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Here : Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums#Professional_reviews —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reqluce (talk • contribs) 21:28, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I didn't realise there was a rule on the number of reviews you could have, but thanks for pointing that out. I'll probably restore the previous version to choose some more appropriate reviews for Tangled Up. ~~ [Jam][talk] 22:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Rxart

please, aid to neutralize and to improve this article that is in favor of being erased. It is a popular distribution in Latin America and that is entering Europe, and the European Union even contracted the creative company of Rxart to work in project MANCOOSI. excuse my English please. Thank you very much, I hope that it can help me.--190.49.162.85 (talk) 19:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid that I don't know anything about Rxart so I wouldn't be able to contribute anything. ~~ [Jam][talk] 19:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Rxart exists, and if wikipedia the flock would be committing an error. There are many references to Rxart in google, would request to him if you know something of Spanish to help to that they do not erase the article of rxart, thanks you very much.
Here some links:
--190.49.149.249 (talk) 22:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm not debating whether or not it exists, but I still don't know anything about it so I can't do anything to help improve the article. Neither do I know any Spanish. Sorry. ~~ [Jam][talk] 22:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
ok, anyway thank you very much.--190.49.149.249 (talk) 22:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
here I respond friend to you.--190.49.149.249 (talk) 22:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Code 9

Hi. While I don't doubt that Digital Spy is wrong, it is not an official source of information for programmes. Can you cite any official BBC source that says Spooks Liberty / Rogue Spooks has been renamed to Code 9? The Mirror, on its report that Joanne Froggatt had been cast to play a major role, said it was still called Spooks Liberty. ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

With respect, I wouldn't call 'The Mirror' a reliable source either. Digital Spy is a leading news source which is actually where many of the entertainment tabloids get their news from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Netgem21 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, neither would I (call "The Mirror" reliable) but I'm still inclined to leave it as "Spooks: Liberty" as the latest[5] from the BBC Press Office suggests it is still called Spooks Liberty. ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I think that, unless an official source comes along as says it is called Code 9 (I've searched the BBC website and can find no reference to Code 9) then I'll move the stuff back to Spooks Liberty (with reference to the BBC sources that say it is Spooks Liberty). ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Linux distros page

Is any compromise possible on having the various distro logos on that page? I spent a while tracking them down and putting that layout together. How about if they were further down the page? Or in a gallery? --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 16:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I suspect a gallery somewhere might be appropriate, but I didn't think the inclusion of those images in the middle of the page was particularly appropriate. Maybe you could have them in a box down one side of the page instead? I'm afraid I don't know the guidelines regarding the use of images on Wikipedia, so might be worth looking those up too :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 22:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I think this is more of an aesthetic disagreement than a guidelines issue; including images that illustrate the topic of an article is pretty standard fare for Wikipedia, and an image right at the top of the article is quite common. I moved the logos down to the Examples -> Popular Linux Distributions section of the article; hopefully you will find this less intrusive. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 12:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I think that looks better personally :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 13:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

vandalism removal

in return to your message about me removing content from Girls Aloud i did so because it was vandalism saying "girls aloud rule" and a image template in a irrelevent position which to me looked like vandalism as well could you tell me if i was right to remove this vandalism? sorry for not stating what and why i did it. Maxtitan (talk) 08:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. It seems you were right. After looking back, it turns out that you were fixing it, but hadn't completely fixed it. I assumed you had introduced the mistakes so I reverted them and warned you. Sorry about that.
Just so you know, in future, please use the "+" button above to add your message to talk pages - don't place them at the top. Cheers. ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

April 2008

I don't agree

The imdb site says that Troels Folmann will be the composer, so..... Tudor Tuloc (talk) 11:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't entirely rely on IMdb since some (most?) of its information is contributed by normal people like us. Until a more reliable source comes along saying he is, I'd keep it off in my opinion. ~~ [Jam][talk] 12:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
You might be right but some people wants to know that Troels will be the one to score the game, he will surely post something on his blog. Anyway, I've moved my user page to the old one to make no confusion to anyone. Tudor Tuloc (talk) 13:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure people will want to know that, but I don't believe IMdb can really be used as a source due to its contributed content (probably in the same way you can't use WP as a source for itself). And thanks for your comment regarding your user page. ~~ [Jam][talk] 13:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Father Kieron Hobbs entry

Dear James,

Thank you for your message on removing my entry on Father Kieron Hobbs. The persistant immediate deletion of this entry by yourself has been noted with growing concern by an increasing number of people and is the subject of much speculation. I can only assume it may be due to the fact that you have labelled him as a minor character in Hollyoaks.

I thought I should bring to your attention that Father Kieron Hobbs is officialy listed as a member of the regular cast of Hollyoaks and has an opening credit in Hollyoaks along with all the other major characters in Hollyoaks. He debuted at the same time as Niall Rafferty (who does has an entry in wiki) and has received just as much air time if not more. I would also like to point out that other characters like Bill Ashworth, Nana McQueen and Valerie Holden who do not appear in the opening credits or the cast list, have entries.

Therefore, I would be very grateful if you could explain your reasons for the persistant removal of the Father Kieron Hobbs entry. You should be aware that any reply (or lack of) will be used as evidence in a dispute resolution by the HEC and this message and your response will be made available to the public domain.

Thank you.

Pen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pen021 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Considering that Wikipedia is in the public domain, I don't see why it was necessary to warn me about that. I also have no idea what the HEC is, so could you please enlighten me?
This discussion has been held in several places already (Talk:Hollyoaks#Father Kieron, Talk:Kieron Hobbs#Notability?, Talk:List of minor characters from Hollyoaks#Kieron Hobbs (notability discussion)) - I assume that you have already read those pages, as my points have been laid out time and again there. You will also notice on the original Kieron Hobbs page that SatyrTN also commented that the page did not meet the notability guidelines of WP:FICTION, and so should be deleted (or merged into the minor characters list, as I later did).
Also, as you state, Bill Ashworth, Nana McQueen and Valerie Holden are not major characters but have their own pages (EDIT: this has since changed - I've merged them all into the minor characters page now). The same with Niall. These pages get created either by anonymous users or editors who do not read the guidelines for the creation of fictional character pages. It then boils down to a very limited number of "dedicated" editors to decide what to do (merge, re-write, delete etc.), and we do not have the limitless time required to go through each page and do this.
I should perhaps also point out that I did not delete the entry - I merely redirected it to the minor characters page. As I have stated on the minor characters talk page, I think this title is inaccurate, and would like to re-titling. As yet, I have not had anyone feedback their comments to me so I haven't yet gone ahead with it.
I hope my reply is satisfactory to you, but please get back in touch if you need me to clarify anything. ~~ [Jam][talk] 17:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Call The Shots flagicon use

In response to your warning regarding the edit that was made to include flag icons, I have since reviewed the flag icon article and I seem to be unable to find any explicit rules regarding the use of flagicons with dates in infoboxes. They are in thousands of infoboxes for singles and albums. The format that was listed under the date before (and now presently) is far more hard to read, which is you reasoning for the warning. A clarification would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.169.78 (talk) 01:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It seems that there is no clear policy on the use of "flag icons" (the ones in infoboxes) but there has been a lot of discussion on this topic. The most centralised discussion I could find was on Wikipedia talk:Manual of style/Archive 66. While I doubt that any article on a Girls Aloud single would suffer from flag icons looking the same, they are still more difficult to see for someone who is visually impaired and for automatic parsing tools to read (I believe Google does something like this). In my opinion, I'd prefer they stayed as textual descriptions. ~~ [Jam][talk] 09:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Improving Facebook to Featured Article status

I am currently working on improving Facebook to Featured Article status, and I noticed that you have made substantial contributions to the article recently. If you have time, I would appreciate it if you could help out and improve the article. Some comments by other editors have been left at the peer review, Wikipedia:Peer review/Facebook/archive2, so feel free to address those issues, also. Thanks for your time! Gary King (talk) 08:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I would like to improve the article to featured status, and I believe it is ready for that. But, I already have one nomination right now, so I can't nominate another article. If you think you can donate some time to the article's nomination, then I would be more than willing to help out. Please let me know. Thanks! Gary King (talk) 22:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Hy there again

Have you seen the picture inside this article Heart of Neolithic Orkney (you'll know it if you've played the 16 years old episode of the TR5). This is stunning, I think we should give some references to the people to see that the Lara Croft's world has some "mirrors" in our world. It was alright for me when I saw there are no more references to other fictional works at the end of each Tomb Raider game articles (there was a vague reference to some movies, but the real places are much better to be mentioned). At least we should do that for TR4 and TR5, where the game producers where inspired more then ever by the real world. Tuloc (talk) 15:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, without official reference to these locations, it is purely speculation and comes under original research, so I don't think we could include it. While I'm sure the game producers will have drawn inspiration from the real world, we can't really say where unless we know officially and can reference it. The picture doesn't ring a bell, but I haven't played TR5 in a while. ~~ [Jam][talk] 20:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

RC

What happened to RC- I wasn't here on wikipedia at the time. Please reply as I am eager to know Britishrailclass43 (talk) 13:35, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I've replied on my talk page. Adambro (talk) 14:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

sorry

hi there i recieved a message from you a few months back and would just like to say sorry for the deleting, i was new at the time and didnt know how the features worked, please except my apologies, Jamie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.174.53 (talk) 16:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Jamie. Thanks for your message, and I accept your apology. You might want to take a look at WP:WELCOME for information about editing Wikipedia and how to avoid future problems :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 18:24, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

British Spellings

Hi. Thanks for fixing a few wrong spellings on the Hannah Ashworth article. Unfortunately, you also changed many correct British spellings to American. Considering that is a British article, please do not unnecessarily change the spellings to American English. Thanks. ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to offend any cultural spellings, I know you guys made the language anyway, but there were also total mispellings such as "scrathing" instead of scratching. Unless scrathing is the way to scratch in the UK. ;p - Tubeyes (talk) 08:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I know - I'm not complaining about the total misspellings, just the fact that your corrections also "corrected" valid British spellings. ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
No problem! Sorry I've disgraced the motherland! - Tubeyes (talk) 08:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
LOL! It's OK - I'll let you off just this once. Do it again, and I might have to set the Queen on you! ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Hehe, I'll just show her my British sympathies by throwing my Flying Circus box set at her in defense. :] - Tubeyes (talk) 09:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello there

I've got a message from you. Maybe you can explain what I did wrong with editing some sources?

Thanks in advance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tombrai1 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, firstly they are not sources - they are external links containing other relevant information. Also, you should not really change established links - you should only add to them if they are relevant and meet the guidelines at WP:EL. That is why I reverted your edits and warned you. ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

My edit on iPlayer was not incorrect.

The bbc recently allowed access to iplayer from the iphone. This stream (a .mov file i believe) can be intercepted by simple programs that basically mask you computer to make it look like an iphone. Please before replying to me Google "iplayer-dl" (without the quotes) Thank you (oh I'm not signed in and i wasn't then so I'll write my user name instead of signing) mczack26 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.151.5 (talk) 11:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

However, this is not an "authorised" service, therefore I don't feel it is necessary to mention it. ~~ [Jam][talk] 12:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Technically it is authorized. It is a service offered by the bbc that is legal. If you want to download it that is up to you but the bbc have authorized it and it is legal to do technically mczack26
The "iplayer-dl" script is not provided by the BBC, and it makes use of "hacks" to download the iPhone/iPod Touch Quicktime videos. Therefore the BBC does not officially support any kind of download service on the Mac or Linux platforms, and that is why it is not appropriate to say that on the iPlayer page. ~~ [Jam][talk] 13:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Greenhead College

Hi Richard. I apologise for the problems that this IP address has been causing. Unfortunately it is the external IP address that is shared by our staff and students when accessing the Internet within college. I've been keeping an eye on the situation, and have been disabling the web access of students that I have found vandalising Wikipedia and notifying the other members of the IT staff about this problem. ~~ [Jam][talk] 10:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the message. It is only a 12 hour block, so is more of an indication of the seriousness of the situation and what may happen than a penalty. Tracing and blocking an individual users access is a difficult process through a shared school IP, so I appreciate the time you are spending doing it. Obviously a new term has recently started, so it may well be a new pupil and may settle down! The two prior blocks were for 7 and 14 days respectively so the potential of a 12 month Schoolblock is very real. Perhaps pasting a public 'classroom' list of those pupils blocked for vandalism will have a deterrent affect, if they see other pupils are aware of their actions and how it may result in their loss of access because of it, assuming it is not politically incorrect to do so! Richard Harvey (talk) 14:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, a 12 hour block over the weekend isn't exactly going to cause too many problems, but I know exactly what you mean. Thankfully it is not an exactly difficult task since I have the date and time of the vandalism, and can use the external proxy logs to track down the user responsible. I shall speak to the other IT staff about a possible "name and shame" campaign regarding Wikipedia vandalism, and try and see if we can get some information into our IT enrolment classes at the start of term so that new students know that it is not acceptable to vandalise Wikipedia in this way. ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Fantastic work James, why can't we have Wikipedians embedded within the IT dept of all large organisations. Adambro (talk) 23:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure it would solve a lot of problems if we did! That or we just implement a site-wide anonymous editor ban (not that that is every going to happen... and it wouldn't entirely solve the problem either...) ~~ [Jam][talk] 23:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

RHEL release dates

Hello you removed my section about Red Hat Enterprise Linux support dates. I think the dates are important part of the information about RHEL, because they are unique in Linux world - no one disribution offers souch long dates.

Now I add section about where to find souch information on RH pages (I spend about 45 minutes to find that) and I hope it stays there ;-)

Petr Klima qaxi (just at) seznam (dot) cz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.20.118.130 (talk) 13:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello. The problem with your original edit was that you added far too much list information to the page. Wikipedia is not a list of statistics, which is what I considered the support dates to be. Your link is probably more appropriate, although it probably needs re-wording. ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Pages moves

Hello. I was just wondering why you are moving lots of Linux distribution pages? I noticed you moved the Ubuntu page recently, and have just moved the Fedora page, but I can see no actual reason for you doing this? ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I've moved some pages about Linux distributions like ubuntu or Fedora, because I think this way most people can easily understand what "Fedora" or "ubuntu" mean... (in computing) as simple as that... and in no way this removes the references to "Linux distribution", that appear in the first sentences of both articles, so people can easily check what a "Linux distribution" is... I think this makes those articles more "acessible"... while still being correct in all senses. Hope I explained it well... I think it was a good idea, what do you think? Cheers SF007 (talk) 14:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, my only concern was that there didn't seem to be any discussion before these moves were initiated. I know about WP:BOLD and all that, but I figured it might have been appropriate to have initiated some discussion beforehand. However, I suppose it is OK to change them to "operating system". ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Keff McCulloch Vandalism

Ban me then :P I'll just redial my internet. 79.73.181.242 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Gmail

I am being bold!!! One of the reasons Wikipedia is so widely used is that it's more up-to-date than traditional encyclopedias.100 MB is a perfectly reasonable update point vs. 500 MB. Be reasonable!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xp54321 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I will admit that it does take a long time to reach over 500MB these days (since they have slowed down their allocation of space). However, that is no reason to keep reverting the pages without discussion. The first time it was reverted, it should have been taken to the talk page for discussion, instead of the constant reverts that then ensued.
Also, I noticed that Pc12345 changed the page in exactly the same style as you - if you are also using that account, you may find both those accounts blocked for sockpuppetry and evasion of 3RR. Just a heads up on that point. ~~ [Jam][talk] 23:50, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

NYMR

I keep making a complete hash of things, I've mananged to on NYMR anyway please revert this Britishrailclass91 (talk) 15:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I've reverted it for you. You know that you can reverted it yourself - go into the history tab at the top, find your edit and hit undo. That will bring up a window confirming what you want to change, and then just click save page to revert it. ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, right, I didn't realise that I could revert it myself. Sorry about the vandalism on commons, I hope I will be able to build your trust in me back upBritishrailclass91 (talk) 15:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries - that is why we experienced editors are here :). I'm willing to forgive you about your vandalism to Commons, and the other problems we had earlier - just make sure to take on board those comments made by the other editors, and to know when to step back and take a break. ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Gmail

Thank you for your cooperation. I'm confident we'll soon have consensus.Xp54321 (talk) 01:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, we'll see what the community says. ~~ [Jam][talk] 01:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, if the rate of storage increases to previous high levels I have nothing against moving to a new longer interval.(250 Mb,400Mb,500MB,whatever the community says):)Xp54321 (talk) 01:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there an active RfC for this now? If so, can you post the link on the gmail talk page? For the record, I don't think an RfC is really needed here - I think the three of us pretty much agree on the 100Mb interval - but if you want to go through that process, go for it. Tan | 39 01:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I've just put an RFC tag at the top of the section in the Gmail discussion page (see here). Well, I think that we can leave it there a few days, see if any other members of the community respond, and if not, I'll take it off and we can agree to the 100MB increment for now (until such a time as we need to re-evaluate that). ~~ [Jam][talk] 01:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Very well, I agree.:)Xp54321 (talk) 01:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

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That IP managed to hit me right as my professor decided to give us a quiz. Thanks for keeping an eye on things. :-) Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

*shock* Editing Wikipedia in class? How could you?! Don't worry - I do it in lectures all the time. :D No worries, I just spotted it, thought it looked dodgy so dealt with it. ~~ [Jam][talk] 20:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

May 2008

Tomb Raider PC Version

You have removed two of my major posts on Tomb Raider I, citing that wikipedia is not a how to guide. You are right, I did not release, so I have created a how to at "Wiki How" for installing the PC Version of Tomb Raider I.

So then how are the following statements which I added back into the wiki a how to guide?

"Running the PC Version of the game on more modern computer hardware and software than was around when it was released in 1996 can be a little bit tricky. This is mainly due to the fact that the original Tomb Raider was released for DOS and not Windows."

"Under Windows 9x Tomb Raider I run without modification. However, Windows 2000, Windows XP and Vista do not share Windows 9x's full direct hardware DOS support. Attempting to run the game from the CD results in a DOS Box flash and then nothing. Non the less with a little patience, persistence and know how, it is indeed possible to get things up and running on Windows XP and Vista."

You need to be reasonable about this. At the least, the above material is a statement of present fact relative to Tomb Raider I. It needs to be included in the article. An external link to the how to wiki, at the least would also suffice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ant75 (talk • contribs) 01:37, 1 May 2008

Well, aside from the "How To" point that I cited before, I am also concerned that the content you provided is a copyvio of another website. I'm not sure that a whole two paragraphs is necessary, but perhaps one paragraph with a reference to a recognised Tomb Raider site (TombRaiderChronicles.com is frequently used) that provides a guide might be appropriate. ~~ [Jam][talk] 07:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Nothing I have written is directly copied from another website. I will condense the above into one paragraph and once again add it to the Tomb Raider wiki. I am happy to provide TombRaiderChronicles.com as the link. You are correct, it is of great value to anyone interested in the Tomb Raider series and it does indeed have its own how to guide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.100.113.217 (talk) 11:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
It just seemed like the content was very similar to that on the TombRaiderChronicles.com site. As I said, it is probably best that you condense it down and use the TombRaiderChronicles.com site as a source to it. (PS: Just a friendly note - you should probably ensure you sign in when you contribute to Wikipedia - not edit anonymously.) ~~ [Jam][talk] 12:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Uncontroversial proposals

Greetings, Software Engineer!

  • I made a booboo like so (an arrow insertion):
→==Uncontroversial proposals==
  • Can you check on the Move Request Page if all's in order? I think I corrected it. Thanks. --Ludvikus (talk) 15:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Seems to be OK to me. ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Girls Aloud vandalism

Hey, if you notice any more of those IPs, let me know. That IP you last reported went on a long streak of edits for about an hour, so I'm considering trying to figure out what a good range to block would be if it continues. You can also add them straight here if you like. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I've seen this user before - editing from a school in Ireland, and later, from their own personal Internet account (on Eircom). If I see any further vandalism, I'll let you know :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 20:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Just got the last IP you added - if we get one more, there should be enough to place a fairly accurate range block. The pattern of vandalism clearly indicates this is all the same person. Good catch. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I spotted their first edit on Girls Aloud, knew it was the same person so added it to your list as per your last request. It would appear that they persist in editing from those two Eircom ranges (159.134.13x.xxx), so I suspect it will be a case of blocking that range from editing anonymously. ~~ [Jam][talk] 19:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Done. I kept it as limited as possible, so it doesn't cover the entire Eircom range, but should hopefully keep the vandal from doing much more for a while. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Nice one. It's annoying that that range has to be blocked, but they might reconsider their actions once they realise they can't edit any longer. ~~ [Jam][talk] 22:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

funpidgin article is spam ???

Could you please remove your request to remove your speedy deletion request from the funpidgin article ? It's not spam in any way because this page refers an open source project, not a company. And all I did was to change some references to the funpidgin home page in the Pidgin(software) article to a stub ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorin7486 (talk • contribs) 13:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

It is not my request, so I cannot remove it. While I do not believe the article is spam, it does not have enough content in it to justify its own page. It is really just another low level branch of Pidgin that just happens to implement a few minor things that people don't like in Pidgin. ~~ [Jam][talk] 13:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
sorry.. I thought it was your request ... as for the level then Adium shouldn't be a separate article either ... There's a reason why I've set the article as a stub and I think we should give the project some time to see where it goes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorin7486 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Adium is a client for Mac OS X. There is no reason why it shouldn't have its own article. However, the Funpidgin software is, as I said, just a fork to fix a few minor issues in Pidgin. I really don't think it is notable enough for its own article. ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Pornography

Have you actually reported it to someone? ~~ [Jam][talk] 12:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Well everyone knows, it's all over the wikisignpost and also there is a link to a real newspaper article in the signpost, take a look. Britishrailclass91 (talk) 12:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't see the Signpost, so I didn't know about it. Just seems like unnecessary over-reaction to me. ~~ [Jam][talk] 13:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Since when did image of naked person automatically equal pornography? There must be a lot of pornography in medical libraries then. The issue of the album cover has been widely discussed and the consensus is that it isn't child porn and it is appropriate to include. Adambro (talk) 19:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Like I said, over-reaction (and not entirely surprising, given the source of the report). ~~ [Jam][talk] 20:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

BBC News music

Hi. I was just wondering why you had removed the "Top of the hour" music from the BBC News Channel article? Apart from being out of date now, I don't see any reason to remove it. I've restored it for the time being. ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:59, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I removed it because it was out of date, but also because there is a fair use issue with the file. Wikiwoohoo (talk) 16:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

That is fine. Your edit summary didn't really explain why you had removed it, hence my restoration of it. ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hollyoaks box

Hi. Since I can find no legitimate reason for using this template over one of the standard character templates, it is in the process of being deleted. However, all the pages need converting to the {{Infobox soap character}} standard parameters (see the Tfd page for details) so if you could lend a hand it would be most appreciated (considering you updated lots of pages to use the template). ~~ [Jam][talk] 11:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I just though I could do it like the other ones and make it a bit neater, but Maglo's already said he'd deal with the box conversion ala the Brookside one. I'll still help Conq 18 May 2008 14:03 (UTC)

Ah, it seems to have been more or less completed. Thanks anyway. ~~ [Jam][talk] 13:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Chris G vandal

Thanks for warning him --Chris 11:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but since they vandalised then reverted it so quickly, I'm a tad suspicious of their true intentions. ~~ [Jam][talk] 11:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Sheffield

Your edit to the Sheffield station page was unnecessary, especially since the page you decided to redirect it to was blank. Please do not unnecessarily redirect articles when there is no need. Thanks. ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I was in the middle of the move before you interfered. Welshleprechaun (talk) 16:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

It is a controversial move which you have not discussed. Please discuss it on the talk page before you do. ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

You should not do copy and paste moves. You should have discussed it on the talk page first, and if consensus was reached, you should have requested the page was moved by an administrator. ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I've reverted this move in full now. Adambro (talk) 19:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with this. ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Latest stable release template

Hi Jam

Thank you for reverting my changes on Fedora and CentOS. I just tried to add the latest version template instead of the normal text, so that any changes on the version could be done directly without need to edit the whole page.

I could add the lsr template to Notepad++ but I couldn't do it for the above OSs. Could you figure the problem?

Thank you in advance!

Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Byassine (talk • contribs) 14:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

By the looks of it, the {{Infobox OS}} template doesn't have the "frequently updated" parameter you specified. {{Infobox OS 2}} does, but I don't think this template is in much use yet.
To be honest, for OSes like CentOS and Fedora, their version number don't update that frequently, so there is no real need to have a separate template for the version details. ~~ [Jam][talk] 14:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Please quit sending me messages

Hello. I don't know who you are, and I don't know why I have a message from you everytime I browse WikiPedia.


If you are trying to discuss something with me, you are probably trying to reach the wrong person.


Can you please stop sending me messages? I have no interest in any discussions.

Thank you for your consideration of my request. I promise, I do not bother anyone and you'll not hear from me again.

Thanks, Mike 74.196.218.199 (talk) 15:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

The only message I believe I have left you is regarding an edit test made to the Fedora (operating system) article from your IP address. If you didn't make this test, then I am sorry but you have obviously been allocated the IP address of someone that did it. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, you should register for an account. ~~ [Jam][talk] 16:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Reconsidered

Hi. You removed my AIV report for this IP address citing that it was a school address without recent vandalism. I don't think it is a school address since it vandalised at 1am this morning, and the WHOIS details for the IP address would contain details of the school if it was one. Also, there was vandalism both today and yesterday so I don't understand why it wasn't blocked. ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The school thing was a case of thinking one thing (shared IP) while saying another. Anyway, I continued looking that one over and blocked the vandal. I'm still not sure a block was technically the right thing to do because of how much time had passed between the anon's last edit and when the AIV report got addressed, though. Doczilla STOMP! 08:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, that's fine. I guess the problem is that they vandalised mainly UK-based articles at a time when most UK editors would be asleep, hence the time it took before someone addressed it. Thanks for blocking them though - might make them think a bit harder before vandalising articles. ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Melissa Hurst

Regarding this article, would it be OK for me to move it now to the List of past minor and recurring characters from Hollyoaks as I proposed in the AfD, or should I wait for the outcome of said AfD? ~~ [Jam][talk] 18:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I would be perfect if you create a section for that character in the List of characters. This would make the decision in the Afd much easier. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I've merged the character details in the list. ~~ [Jam][talk] 19:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Nice! I think it needs trimming though. Let's leave Afd for a day or two and then we close it. I'll just inform that all info is not in the List. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

June 2008

RHEL/CentOS-Fedora Core linkage

Hi. Just saw the comment on your edit. Yes, those details are on the RHEL page, but they are also unreferenced. My main point is that although I know that RHEL and CentOS are derived from the baseline Fedora distribution available at the time (a source on the Fedora article says just this), there is no proof from either Red Hat or the Fedora Project that suggests this exact mapping of Fedora -> RHEL/CentOS. That is what I was contesting. ~~ [Jam][talk] 06:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I know that it does not have sources. However, the reason I do this is just to convienient people, especially if it already exist on RHEL. If you dislike it, you can take out the one in CentOS, but should also remove the same section in RHEL. George Leung (talk) 07:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Who Are You??

Why do you keep correcting me? Do you actually have a life at all? I only copied a template from another page and you give out to me. I make a few spelling mistakes and you give out to me. I add lyrics to page (I didn't know you couldn't) and you give out to me! Give me a break will you!! Most of my messages are from you! grr!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamr02 (talk • contribs) 11:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I keep correcting you because you keep making edits that appear to me detrimental to Wikipedia. Perhaps you need to familiarise yourself with the policies of Wikipedia, especially with the Music project since you keep editing music-type pages. ~~ [Jam][talk] 11:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

All done

Hi. The template you created recently is in the wrong namespace - it should be Template:Stub-Phasmatodea, not Wikipedia:Stub-Phasmatodea. If you need help moving it, give me a shout. ~~ [Jam][talk] 22:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

{{Phasmatodea-stub}} Eg.{{Mantodea-stub}}

B jacob (talk) 19:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, you actually moved it to the main space under the name Phasmatodea-stub - I've now corrected this and moved it to Template:Phasmatodea-stub. ~~ [Jam][talk] 19:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Harley Raine

I declined a speedy you put on this article. It was uploaded, tagged and reviewed in the same minute. Please give time for the article to be expanded, because articles are generally written in stages. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The page has already been deleted twice before, hence my "jumping in" to delete it. However, I'll wait a little longer to see if it gets expanded further. ~~ [Jam][talk] 22:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello

would you like to nominate for my featured picture nomination here cheers

thanks

B jacob (talk) 02:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but this looks like canvassing to me. ~~ [Jam][talk] 07:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)