User talk:Jesant13

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[edit] Welcome!

Hello Jesant13! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 23:52, 20 April 2007 (UTC) Getting started Wikipedia tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Fair use • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The "perfect" article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General - Spam - Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

[edit] VT and notability

Hi, I noticed that you're engaging in edit warring with another user over an issue of phrasing. It is assumed on Wikipedia that all institutions of higher education are inherently notable, and indeed VT is. The shootings are an extremely important event in the history of the school; however, they do not define it. The phrasing should be left something along the lines of "VT was the site of etc." --Dynaflow 00:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Thank you. --Dynaflow 23:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

It wouldn't be happening if the editors knew how to write. --Jesant13 23:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with the writing skills of others. This has everything to do with impatience and failure to compromise. Please stop edit-warring. --Dynaflow 23:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I am not edit-warring. I am editing things for the better. I only edit things if I think they should be edited. --Jesant13 23:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

That does not matter in the least when it comes to edit-warring. Please read WP:3RR before making any further edits. --Dynaflow 23:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Well it isn't my fault that rule needs changes. --Jesant13 23:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I have run afoul of 3RR recently too (see User talk:Dynaflow#your own 3RR), but the rule exists for a very good reason and is for the best. At the most basic level, it helps the editorial process by keeping content decisions a matter of consensus rather than stamina. Edit wars are destructive and distracting, and occasionally bringing the hammer down on reversion warrior is a great way to remind him or her of the value of talking things out first before taking unilateal action. --Dynaflow 23:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, I will not add that piece of information back. However, I have edited & added to the portion of the history section which talks about VT. --Jesant13 00:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you are also editng the perpetrator's name back to "Cho Seung-hui. As per the consensus reached at Talk:Seung-Hui Cho#Naming order POLL .28again.21.29 last night, it has been more or less decided that the name order should be "Seung-Hui Cho." If you want to debate that, please debate it there rather than in main-page edits. --Dynaflow 00:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I didn't know that. --Jesant13 00:13, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Virginia Tech

Please see WP:3RR. Making the same change excessively is cause for a block.

In any event, can you explain why you believe this change should be in there? That seems to be your only contribution since editing. Virginia Tech is one of the top 50 public schools in the country and has a 1A football team - we're not talking about Bridgewater College or something that unless you happen to be from somewhere near there you never would have heard of. Unless you can explain your claim on the talk page, it should not be in the article. --BigDT (416) 14:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I updated the change. --Jesant13 23:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Please do not edit others' comments on talk pages. I have reverted your edit to Seraphim Whipp's quote - your edit made it seem as though he/she prefers a different quote. --BigDT (416) 23:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I was the one who originally wrote that quote, & I changed it because I changed the original quote. But he/she can leave it unaccurate. IDC. --Jesant13 23:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

That may be, but this individual is offering that quote as what he/she believes should be in the article. If that doesn't exactly match your quote, then that's because he/she believes that something other than your quote should be used. --BigDT (416) 00:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Re-Naming from Bailey Island Bridge to Cribstone Bridge

Jesant, can you comment on your reasons for renaming this article, especially since it was done without discussion? The Maine DOT site and the Register for Historic Places all give the name as "Bailey Island Bridge". I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I'd like a source for this being the definitive name. See Talk:Cribstone Bridge for a place to discuss. Isoxyl 19:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Sherwood Dungeon Online

A tag has been placed on Sherwood Dungeon Online requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC) (from the talk page): Sherwood Dungeon Online should have a Wikipedia entry, since it is another popular mmorpg. While it may not be as popular as RuneScape or World Of Warcraft, it still is a great game for lots of players. I just need some help improving this page. --Jesant13 (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I had to delete the article, because there is at present nothing in the article that could indicate notability in the sense of WP:N. You need references to show it from reliable third party published sources. Please do not restore the article till you have them. Reviews in published game magazines, print or on line are the sort of thing needed, but not blogs.DGG (talk) 17:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)