User talk:JerseyRabbi

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[edit] Welcome!

Hello, JerseyRabbi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! --Kubigula (talk) 04:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

Would you mind reviewing the recent edits regarding the rôle of the Prushim as ancestral or not to both Rabbinic and Qara'i Judaism on List of Religions? Specifically, I've found myself in conflict with User:Aaron Solomon Adelman who insists that Karaite Judaism rejects all of Pharisaic philosophy, rather than simply the legitimacy of the rabbis' redaction of Torah she-b'alPe as Talmudh. I doubt either of us, he or I, would regard you as a halakhic authority on any day of the week, but I assume as a rabbi you have access to citable impartial texts that cover the topic, which might be useful in shedding much-needed light on this topic. Regards, Tomertalk 07:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Discussion continued on Tomer's talk page .JerseyRabbi 13:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Summary Mark-Up

  • Thanks for the welcome. I have a question that I hope you can direct me. I've read every help page that seemed relevant without finding it. I understand what to put in the edit summary box in general. But I've noticed on some page (for ex. I was on a particular Article for Deletion page and when I checked the history to see how others noted their entries, I found a large number were written with an Arrow that links to the article for deletion entry followed by a link to the main article. I how to do this manually with links (like this: →Orthodox_Messianic_Jews) but since it seemed so common, I wondered I am just missing some shortcut (like the 4 tildes for a signature) to do this as well. Thanks so much! JerseyRabbi 06:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Interesting question. The difference in the edit summary description is generated automatically by the system; there's no shortcut that you need to use. The key to when it generates the arrow that you noticed is whether you are editing the whole article or just a section. If you edit the whole article, then the system will just insert the edit summary you provide. If you edit a section (i.e. by clicking the "[edit]" box on the right side of the section, it will automatically add the section title at the start of the edit summary. The idea is to let people know that you are editing a particular section rather than the whole article.
The system works for regular articles. It's less meaningfull when you edit things such as individual articles for deletion (AfD). You can edit these pages by clicking "edit this page" or using the edit box on the side of the page. However, the AfD page only has the one "section", so the edit summary subheading doesn't really give any useful information.
Hope this makes sense, and please feel free to ask any other questions (though I can't promise I know the answer).--Kubigula (talk) 14:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the answer. It makes complete sense and I am using the system the way you described right now. Much obliged. JerseyRabbi 18:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HUC Links on the Rabbi Page

I noticed your removal of the links I added regarding the Hebrew Union College on the Rabbi page. Your note said you thought they were "self-advertising." While I am an alumnus of HUC, I want to clarify that the links were put up for one purpose: To give an actual citation to a claim on that page. Nearly the entire rabbi page has no citations whatsover. In fact the notes I added to outside sources are the only ones in the article. For someone to claim that Reform and Reconstructionist rabbinical students study sociology and pastoral care should be verifiable. Where is a better source for verification than the school's own course listing for the students? Immediately above in the Conservative Rabbis section (just to pick the first example I see), there is no citation backng up the claims of wha the students study, that women are being ordained, etc. It is listed only based on the author's word. I wanted to make the first small step in putting in citations. If i go tackle that section, JTS wll surely be the first web site I look to verify any claims. So I completely understand your initial concern, but I think these links are the 1st of hopefully many dozen that will verify the various statements made in this article. All the best. JerseyRabbi 13:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Hi JerseyRabbi: Welcome to Wikipedia. There is a correct way of citing sources and articles. It is not done the way you did it. See WP:CITE about this subject. Thanks, IZAK 03:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the link. I will certianly adjust the citations to include the references at the end of the text and make sure the format is consistent with Wikipedia style. If I might be so bold as to share a personal reaction from a relative newbie to a veteran, extremely active editor: My citations may have been misformatted, but they certainly were placed with the best of intentions to improve the article. The Rabbi article is completely lacking in substantiated claims. I made a first attempt - and that was what drove me to actually create a professional log-in name to do so. As I was reading articles other articles from the link you sent, I came across one that said we should always assume good faith that someone is trying to help the article, not hurt it. Simply deleting my citations was a bit offputting to me and if another user hadn't restored them so quickly, it might have made me very reluctant to continue editing. I know you were simply trying to keep articles free of perceived biased clutter and (I assume) that was not your specific intention. Since I don't imagine there are a ton of Reform Rabbis editing Wikipedia, I'd think my contributions, however tiny, might be valuable. The advice you give immediately above in directing me to a helpful style sheet so I can adjust/modify the work I contributed is exactly the pro-active positive approach that will encourage me to edit and post and seek advice from veteran editors. Maybe others will join me in substantiating the Rabbi article so it isn't simply a collection of individuals unsourced claims. Again, I appreciate the link and will work in the next week to adjust all my citations properly. Have a great day! (and an early Shabbat Shalom). JerseyRabbi 14:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Progressive vs. reform Judaism, request for comment

I've started a discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism to discuss the name used to refer to progressive/liberal/reform Judaism and the organization of the articles. Your perspective as an HUC-JIR alumna/us(?) would be appreciated. If you know of other editors with relevant expertise, please consider asking for their input as well. Thanks, Egfrank 04:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation to join project

I wanted to invite you to join the Wikipedia:WikiProject Progressive Judaism - the project is dedicated to improving articles covering the progressive/reform/liberal movement in North America, UK, Europe, Israel and the rest of the world. Egfrank 03:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of the Jews in Dallas, Texas

I saw that you had contributed to articles on Judaism in Dallas. Do you have any contributions, or ideas for the article History of the Jews in Dallas, Texas. Thanks. Bhaktivinode (talk) 00:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your advice. I appreciate any comments you have. Thanks again. Happy Chanukah! Bhaktivinode (talk) 04:33, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the typo fix

Thanks for the typo fix on Progressive Judaism - and please feel free to make more extensive edits if you feel they are merited. Egfrank (talk) 04:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

And I just noticed your confirmation section rewrite - that was really a nice job. I never thought of it as a group experience parallel to the individual experience of bar mitzvah, but it makes sense. And considering that as Jews we live our relationship to God as part of a community and not just as individuals, very appropriate to have both. By the way is there a citation we could add so that someone who wanted to go find out more about the idea could look it up? Kol tuv, Egfrank (talk) 05:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] November 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, one or more of the external links you added to the page Saul Kaiserman do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Closedmouth (talk) 09:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's one of the standard templates that comes with twinkle and is part of Wikipedia:WikiProject user warnings, so you might want to take up any objections you have with them. I felt it was appropriate in the context --Closedmouth 13:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mateek

I've added a user page Mateek. Please don't interfere with my NPOV. You are from a section of Judaism, and don't speak for all Jews. I believe I can speak with higher authority on this matter. I display misinterpretations of the Hebrew Bible by Christians [Disputations], and one by Jews on that same page, about the book of Daniel. It doesn't take a college degree to read Isaiah until it's comprehended. You made a mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mateek (talk • contribs) 05:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Update

Please read my repy to your insinuations on my talk page. Mateek (talk) 18:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)