User talk:Jcavale
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Namaskar, Please put the history of your family on a page dedicated soley to your family. We mention Kulkarni, deshpande, Joshi because of the huge number of families using that name. Thanks.
The other contested area is that of the dravidian lineage of the maharashtrians. Maharashtrians do not have any genetic similarity to the dravidians though culturally some habits might be dravidian influenced such as coconuts and rice being included in the diet. This too, is limited only to to the konkan and southern regions of maharashtra. I'm a deshashtha brahmin myself and my great grandfather was C.Hayavadana Rao who who was an eminent historian and wrote the mysore gazette and did extensive research on south Indian history as well as maratha History. He has personally stated in his works that Maratha or maharashtrians are in no way genetically related to the dravidians. They are more closely related to the Indo greek tribes who moved south during the second wave of greek incursions. Greeks are not distant to Indians and most of us have greek lineage and they have contributed considerably to the north indian and west indian genetic pool. Coming to the huns, the Huns left a mark when they arrived in India during 4th century. Indo Scythian lineage needs no explanation. And maharashtrians do not resemble kannada or telugu people physically. (When you say "Maharashtrians , you are probably refering to upper castes like Deshastha Brahmin , Ckp or Kokanastha. Does your typical Mahar person look very different from say a Kannada peasant?) Though there might be similarities among kannada deshastha and marathi deshasthas, we must remember that the kannada deshastha brahmins were originally maharashtrians.
Namaskar. Recent genetic research (DNA research) shows that most Indians including South Indians are closely related. I don't think anybody has come up with a specific set of "dravidian" genes. Most of us (I am mixed deshastha /karhade myself) are mixtures of genes from various parts of the world. Thanks.
Dear Mr. Cavale,
Please please please , don't use the words like Deshastha when talking about Marathi people. We are a a tiny percentage of the Marathi population and the significance of what you say wil be lost to most non-brahmin people. Also you mention genetics studies by your great-grandfather, what tools did he used to come to the conclusions he did ? Do you cite his work in the main article ? I am not going remove your latest edit but am sure it will be very soon by others. I don't know how old you are but please remember with Wikipedia you are contributing a learned journal
Thanks.
October 30 2007
Dear Mr. Cavale,
In Marathi there is proverb, "panyaat rahoon Mashashi vair" . I gather you live Bangalore but it seems from your edits to Marathi people and Deshastha that you have grudge against the "Dravidian" people. Why ?
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.9.96.126 (talk) 15:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Cavale,
I am sure you come from an eminent family but there was no reason to add description of your family in the introduction part of the list of deshastha last names. A better idea would be to have an article written about your family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.9.96.126 (talk) 13:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deshastha
Dear Mr. Cavale, It is a serious charge to accuse somebody of vandalism. Is it because a 17 year old guy from England called Will who somehow became an administrator says so ? Do you know he would be able to tell a pakistani apart from an Indian, let alone a Deshastha from other brahmins ? Anyhow, Mr. Cavale from the long conversation I have with you regarding this and the "South Indian" question, I think you are very rigid with views. When your grandfather wrote his book, the Aryan invasion theory was accepted part of history. There are serious doubts about its validity now. Incidently, on a friendlier note, when Khilji invaded Devgiri, the Yadav kings moved to Konkan along with their priests. The priests included Kavale And Puntambekar. --24.187.26.104 (talk) 19:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Deshastha
Dear Mr. Cavale, Your edit war has gone long enough with the article [Deshastha]. By continually reverting edits, you have began to compromise the integrity of the article, please refrain from further actions. I would recommend writing a short summary of the reasons why you believe such reversions are necessary.
A note on a comment posted on [User talk:24.187.26.104]'s user page quoted as follows.
"Hey... My grand father was a historian... C Hayavadan Rao and he has statedin his books that deshastha brahmins are from Punjab... And before that they were from Uttarapatha. And I see that you have been vandalizing this page. So stop it."
If you don't have sufficient sources to back up your claims, besides your affirmation that your grandfather was a historian, please cease reverting edits. Your assertion that you, because you believe your grandfather is a final authority on these subjects, is misrepresented.You do not possess the same knowledge as your grandfather and thence, should stop reverting edits without sufficient evidence of such edits endangering the coherence of the article.
