Talk:James the Less

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[edit] Relationship to Matthew

The article states that James was the brother of Matthew without attributing any source. This relationship is not mentioned in the Bible. The source for the statement should be cited.

This supposition is based on Mark 2:14, which says Levi (Matthew) was the son of Alphaeus, and assuming it's the same Alphaeus that is James' father. --Spiffy sperry 17:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James' True Name

Why does it say in there that James comes from the Hebrew Ya'akov? They don't seem to be related at all. I distinctly remember someone telling me that the name James in Hebrew is something closer to the Greek.

[edit] James the Lesser incorrectly identified with James the Just, the Brother of the Lord

This topic is referring to the following change: 19:30, 22 August 2006 129.252.184.148 (Talk) (James the Lesser incorrectly identified with James the Just, the Brother of the Lord)

"Encyclopedic content must be verifiable."

There is clearly a problem with the number of James's in the NT. Confusion is rife, and I don't think the change made by 129.252.184.148 helped very much. Replacing "also known as" by "commonly confused with", later changed to "sometimes confused with" does not clarify the situation any further. To state that this identification is incorrect, you would need to be confident that you are a greater authority on saints than the catholic church, and then provide verification.

The identification of James the Just with James the Less, right or wrong, goes back to Jerome at least. It is hardly a minority view. Trishm 04:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Confusion

This article creates confusion by being titled "James the Less" instead of "James, son of Alphaeus". Each possible James should have a separate article (with the JsoA being clearly the Apostle). Possible identifications can than be covered. I will implemented this in a short while. Str1977 (smile back) 18:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

"James the Less" is a familiar designation among the welter of doublets and disguises. --Wetman 19:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Str1977. Four "James" articles would help the encyclopedia to be as clear as possible: (1) James the Great (whichever title), (2) James of Alpheus, (3) James the Just, and (4) James the Less. The fact is, (4) is variously identified as both the Just and Alpheus. I think Str1977 has come up with a good solution. -- Pastordavid 16:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another Confusion - First Bishop of Jerusalem

Both this article and James the Just article mention that their respective James was the first Bishop of Jerusalem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.213.41.2 (talk) 15:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirecting to James, son of Alphaeus

Once I removed the stuff about James the Just, all that remained of this article was a pale shadow of the James, son of Alphaeus article. So I'm turning this into a redirect to James, son of Alphaeus, because that article actually has more information on James the Less.

This does not mean that these two are necessarily the same person. But there is so little material on them (in fact the main material is the question of identity) that it makes sense to have James, son of Alphaeus and James the Less be the same article. Peter Ballard (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

p.s. See also discussion at Talk:James, son of Alphaeus Peter Ballard (talk) 02:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)