Talk:James Cagney

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[edit] Misc. Errors

1. Cagney Married Carolyn Nelson. 2. The movie is "Angels with Dirty Faces" not wings ....

Be bold! Get in there and fix those errors :) Dysprosia 21:50, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Correct anything you know is wrong. But check first! Your second correction is clearly in order, and I've just made it. But Frances Willard "Bill" Vernon married Cagney in 1922 and survived him, Carolyn Elizabeth Nelson was Cagney's mother! -- Someone else 22:07, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I have a lot to say about Cagney. Only for the moment am I saying nothing. Orangetuesday 07:12, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

This might be of interest to the article; When asked who the greatest movie star of all time is, Orson Welles said James Cagney. This is in the Parkinson interview (on youtube, part 4). --85.83.126.224 02:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I'm glad Cagney got a postage stamp, but can't we get a better picture than that? Come on. There must be dozens of great and usable pictures on the net. Also there should be more than one, which can go next to the filmography. --Mantanmoreland 03:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

What do people think of the new picture? I think the copyright situation is OK. Is it correctly formatted? I don't have much experience with photos.--Mantanmoreland 23:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why 'remembered'

It is opinion and OR, unless one can cite it, to say that Cagney is remembered as a noir star or crime picture guy. He starred in a wide variety of roles, particularly in his later career. He won an Academy Award portraying George M. Cohan. It is more accurate to describe him as winning acclaim for a wide variety of roles, and I have changed the lead paragraph to say so. (P.S.why am I the only one using Talk?)-Mantanmoreland 20:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

As long as I'm griping, I would add that this article really could use a lot of strengthening. He was a subject of several biographies and at least one autobiographical book, Cagney by Cagney. There is tons of stuff out there. I will do my best to flesh out this article but I hope that others pitch in. I'll post a notice somewhere to see if more editors can flock in and work on this.--Mantanmoreland 20:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin j's edits

Thank you for adding information to the Cagney article. However, a couple of notes. You made over forty minor edits in about an hour. It would serve WP better if you would use the sandbox or other means to construct your submissions exactly the way you want them and then submit them, rather than several dozen tweaks in a row. It makes it very tedious for others to follow your edits. Also, even though you submitted much useful information, you have unfortunately slaughtered the grammar and understandability of the article. Sentences now run into each other without sense, words are misused ("it's" for "its," etc.), and it will take someone a fair amount of time to correct these errors. Perhaps you would be willing to go over the article now, sentence by sentence, and repair not the content but the grammar. Thank you. Monkeyzpop (talk) 20:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers priority assessment

Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 10:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Road to Featured Article

OK, so this article is currently at Start level, and has clearly a long way to go before we can get it on the front page. I've made a few changes to the lead and early life sections having just got hold of a bio.

However, I think the that the whole things needs a considerable rewrite. I suggest that the career section needs splitting up, it should be the meat of the article and I really think it needs some subsections. Perhaps we could split it by stage, and then by film, possibly subdivided by studio/independent. Additionally, there are some stuff that come from the IMDB trivia section, which really isn't reliable. I'm hoping to get hold of his autobio and another bio of him over the next few days which hopefully will allow some better sourcing of stuff. I'll keep making more minor edits and other general stuff while hopefully we can reach a consensus here Ged UK (talk) 19:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, nobody has any comments, so I'll just make the changes. I've split the career section up into smaller chunks based on studio/independent status and filled out the Early Life and Early Career sections. I've just started on the first warner section. Ged UK (talk) 21:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm plodding on with this, not quite as fast as I hoped, but hopefully got a bit of time over the next few days to finish the main section, ie his movie career. Then I'll add a section on his politics/political involvement, which should help dent some of the trivia section, which I intend to get rid of. Ged UK (talk) 16:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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