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Contents 1 Images 2 Arabic notice 3 New image. 4 Roger Rabbit characters (hope this will be the first real discussion on this talk page) 5 Fair use rationale for Image:KingdomHeartsJafar.PNG 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Jafar.jpg 6.1 Someone do something about this 7 Flight category

[edit] Images

We need to find the appropriate location of the images that failed to load on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArgentiumOutlaw (talk • contribs) 11:59, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Arabic notice

There was an {{Arabic}} notice here, saying: "This article is about a person, place, or concept whose name is originally rendered in the Arabic script". Disney's hero's name was not originally rendered in the Arabic script, however. --tyomitch 10:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New image.

To be honest, I don't like the image we have now. So we need a new one. TheBlazikenMaster 12:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Common, the article is pretty active, so can someone please discuss this? TheBlazikenMaster 21:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

The new image looks great. TheBlazikenMaster 07:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roger Rabbit characters (hope this will be the first real discussion on this talk page)

I have feeling this needs to be discussed. There should be valid reasons why it can't be here. I think I know the reason, since it's just one movie. But my reason probably won't stop people from re-adding the category, so let's discuss this. TheBlazikenMaster 17:56, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't need to be discussed. Anonymous user 66.245.192.78 keeps adding Category:Roger Rabbit characters to dozens of characters who are not Roger Rabbit characters. The category description states that the category is only for characters who originated in Roger Rabbit. 66.245.192.78 is a vandal. AJD 18:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

And another reason, Jafar NEVER APPWARED in the movie there for is NOT a character. User:AKR619 —Preceding unsigned comment added by AKR619 (talk • contribs) 03:29, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

I think that saying that Jafar "like many other characters in Aladdin, is based on a character in Richard Williams' unfinished animated film The Thief and the Cobbler. In this case, he is analogous to the latter film's villian ZigZag, who was voiced by Vincent Price" is a bit uncertain at best -- the main Aladdin article suggests similarities but by no means says it is BASED on that movie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_%28film%29#Similarities_to_The_Thief_and_the_Cobbler —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.111.171 (talk) 04:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:KingdomHeartsJafar.PNG

Image:KingdomHeartsJafar.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 17:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Jafar.jpg

Image:Jafar.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 01:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Someone do something about this

Without the image we won't know how Jafar REALLY looks like. TheBlazikenMaster 17:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flight category

I placed it here because he practically flew in the animation and video games (as a sorcerer and after he became a genie, not sure about Kingdom Hearts though). The category was removed by TheBlazikenMaster. Since he can fly by some use of power (see category description) I do not understand why the category has to be taken off. Can we get consensus here? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I did explain, he is really more floating than flying. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 19:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the difference is that huge. Genie has been seen doing both (if you count the shape-changing). BTW, what powers does Jafar possess in Kingdom Hearts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I still disagree. But we need more people joining this discussion. Only us two simply ain't working. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 20:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for being month late, but I am getting a third opinion. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I undid your edit. You acted as if I didn't give good arguements and examples while never answering my questions. And we'll need thoughts from several editors, not just only one. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not saying your arguments suck, you do make good ones, but this is a whole article, more people need to be in this discussion in order for the problem to be resolved. It can't be solved just by two people. What unanswered questions are you referring to by the way? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 18:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

This one, for starters. Simply put, when he becomes a genie he is seen using the ability moreso than when he was a wizard. If it was something akin to a one-time event like, say, Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time, then we wouldn't be having this conversation now would we? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

How the hell am I going to reply to a question of a game I never play? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 19:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, calm down. A simple "I don't know. I've never played the game, sorry." would have sufficed. And the characters I presented in my edit summary here, can't their levitational powers relate to Jafar's? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I get your point. But I still think more people should join this discussion. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 19:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Yet, may I have an answer to the second question? Even better, make a YouTube video, that is, if you'd prefer. That would be interesting to watch, but it's your decision. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

No, I see completely the point now. He is flying when Abis Mal releases him for the first time, maybe not much, but it still counts. I believe this discussion has been resolved. After thinking about it, Jafar can fly, he does more than just floats. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 19:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Awww, no YouTube? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I can find that myself. Jafar Kingdom Hearts would be the perfect tags for me. If you wanna discuss with me about some YouTube videos, please try to discuss it ON YouTube, my YouTube account is BlazikenMaster, we don't want to fill this discussion page with YouTube discussions, believe me. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 19:51, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I actually wanted you to answer my second question on a YouTube video made by you, not link a video game. Sorry for not stating it explicitly. I forgot my YouTube account name and password so I might just make another one. In the meantime, make a video responding to me? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

The discussion has been solved, I don't have anything else to say. Neither here or in a YouTube video. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 20:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I know. It was just for fun but I guess we should go our separate ways. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

It's time to tag this discussion, which I am doing in this edit. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 20:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)