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There was a large section that I just deleted regarding "Honey" - the whole thing seemed to be pretty inappropriate for this article User:Gil-Galad 9 June 2006

[edit] Vandalism

This page appears to be a target of a few vandals, if it continues it may need to be protected. Cartwarmark 21:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What to call this article

Islamic medicine is not the best name, because it implies that the discoveries made by the early arabs is somehow "islamic", which is a big POV. I origionally proposed Early Arabic medicine, but that was later changed to muslim medicine. Now we are back to the origional title. So, I throw the question at those who changed it. Which title is the best?--Sefringle 01:45, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Your page move was inappropriate on 4 grounds:
  1. You just moved the article w/o any discussion whatsoever. ---> Wikipedia:Requested moves
  2. Your new title was inappropriate as the most notable physician in the article was not arab at all. ---> Al-Razi
  3. "Islamic medicine" doesn't necessarily mean that it "implies that the discoveries made by the early arabs is somehow "islamic"". It implies medicine developed/researched during the Islamic scientist development era. There weren't only arabs who contributed to that! ---> Hindu medicine
  4. You are asking people the same question you should have asked yourselves in first place. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 02:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I origionally tried to move it through WP:RM [1], User:Stemonitis said the result was no consensus dispite the lack of objections, but later said the I could move it if I wanted to:[2]. Second, the title does imply the subject is "islamic." It implies that there is something within Islam that caused these discoveries. That is why maybe "muslim" was more appropiate, but I think their could be a better title.--Sefringle 02:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
He said you could move it and it was on another article where no one objected. It may mean that no one had the opportunity to comment as you requested it at 03:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC) while he closed it at 10:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC). People were sleeping, playing w/ their kind? Here you followed an advice based on other circumstances. Here you were reverted.
I have no objections w/ "muslim". -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 02:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I object to the move. If we have a look at the references and external links we see that be have:

This seems to be the most common name. —Ruud 10:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Though what is the topic of this article? It does not discuss how any medicine is Islamic, meaning a part of the religion of Islam. It discusses the medicinal discoveries of muslims. Muslim medicine is thus more appropiate.--Sefringle 03:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

The adjective "Islamic" refers to the Islamic civilization and in no way is meant to imply the medicine itself is in some way Islamic. In fact, I find that the name "Muslim medicine" implies an even stronger connection to Islam (whcih I believe is what you want to prevent.) However, your reply doesn't in anyway refute my argument that "Islamic medicine" is the WP:COMMONNAME of this subject. —Ruud 19:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


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first the removal of the phrase saying islamic science marked the begining of microbiology. Thats has been removed since at most muslim scientists did was speculate that bacteria may exist, and mind you they had absolutely no clue to what the correst idea of microbes where. So why the removal, simple, merely speculating on something does not constitute the beginning of that field of science, that be like saying greeks and indians initiated atomic theory, since they speculated matter is made of atoms, even they could not prove it and that there theorie were absolutely wrong and philisophical in nature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.181.171 (talk) 09:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)