Template talk:Infobox minister office

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[edit] Template use

This template could do with a major overhaul or even be merged into Template:Infobox Political Post. --Barryob (Contribs) (Talk) 13:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bars

I am going to replace the image bars with text bars, because:

  1. They contain text that cannot be seen by users that view Wikipedia with a text browser or a screen reader, and that cannot be searched for;
  2. They make the infobox layout inflexible; that is, they remove the ability of the browser to determine the optimal width of the infobox;
  3. They are contrary to the usual look and feel of Wikipedia.

Hesperian 01:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I put them back as a) the article titles and text are what matter in searches, not infobox graphics; b) the infobox size is matched to other infoboxes so that they always align, this is more professional than various sized infoboxes making for a jagged margin down the right hand side of the page; c) there is no "usual" look and feel to Wikipedia. The bar is a graphic, no more no less. It is part of a theme that includes the one for monarchy and for viceroys, and is, in my strong opinion, superior to the replacement, which looked unrefined. --G2bambino (talk) 01:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Reverted per Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Using graphics to display text. Hesperian 05:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Restored as the talk page of MoS is not binding. --G2bambino (talk) 14:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I can only assume from this that you consider the MoS itself binding? Well someone (not me) has now edited this into the MoS itself: see Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Images as text. Hesperian 06:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I should also point out that the bars aren't meant to impart any information about the article in which the template is used. As can be seen in Prime Minister of Canada, the template states in text "Prime Minister of Canada." The bars are only to codify between ministers, viceroys, and monarchs, as well as federal and provincial jurisdictions. --G2bambino (talk) 14:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, I have made a new attempt at text bars, trying to closer match the images with CSS. Hope this is acceptable?
—Apis (talk) 06:56, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, first off, they're not "text bars", they're just colour codes. However, what you've done looks okay, but it now doesn't match the two other templates that work with this one: Template:Infobox monarchy and Template:Infobox vice-regal. If we're going to go with this version, could you please "fix up" the others as well? Cheers. --G2bambino (talk) 11:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)