User talk:Hesperian

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1 Reverse pipe trick
2 Unbelievable
3 Shag Rock (Houtman Abrolhos)
4 User:QuackGuru
5 Sesselis var
6 Double check
7 Which name to use ?
8 Gawks
9 Any idea?
10 Sable Antelope
11 Procedurally
12 Province or region?
13 Dendy
14 Sorry
15 I'm so sorry
16 Egg on the face

[edit] Reverse pipe trick

Reverse pipe trick. 03:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unbelievable

Ha, that was bound to happen one day, I have been inspired to have a closer look at salt marsh flora by your various Hesperian Archipelago articles. Also many of the species are local here as well. I'm (kind of) working through this list, but don't let me put your off your own article schedule. Melburnian (talk) 14:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey dont let me get carried away about samphires - as for the ethnocentric poms - not worth getting anything in to a twist about imho - try some indonesian lists for size if you want a hernia or neck ache Satu Suro 06:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

No thanks; I've already got the head cold from hell. :-( Hesperian 06:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

In that case you might want to avoid my storm in teacup at 'The West' - :) Satu Suro 08:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shag Rock (Houtman Abrolhos)

Thanks for creating the article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:QuackGuru

This editor was already warned by a notable admin [1] not to remove or alter other people's comments and explicitly told "Mucking with the comments of others is not acceptable. If you feel something is inappropriate, please raise the issue to the attention of uninvolved administrators, via WP:ANI or another appropriate venue". See my edit summary on this edit [2]. Then he reverts it [3] and leaves this bogus warning on my page [4]. Please look into it. Ncmvocalist (talk) 06:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sesselis var

So they cannot keep still they find variants? bah, they never look carefully enough at whats in front of em - :| Satu Suro 14:02, 1 June 2008 (UTC) That is deliberately ambiguous - cannot remember if i told you about my odd exprience at the herbarium last week Satu Suro 16:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

This particular variety has survived 160 years of scrutiny. But I agree with your general point; it would be nice if we could all appreciate phenotypic variations between and within populations, without rushing out to publish names for them. What especially shits me is when they publish new varieties based on subtle differences between populations that clearly intergrade, where there is clearly no barrier to genetic exchange. Seems so bloody arbitrary. Hesperian 12:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well some of the gastrolobium delineations seemed to suggest some microscopic variations there and here Satu Suro 12:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Double check

I dont seem to find any earlier mentions of - Varanus Island - which seemed very odd - if you are on or about could you do a quickdouble check i havent missed something, like something with a diff title - please? - no big deal if find this later in the day - thanks Satu Suro 05:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC) As always thank you Satu Suro 13:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Which name to use ?

Hi Hesperian, I have a naming issue that I hope you can advise me with. As part of placing images I've been uploading to commons I'm going to create an article on the Shy Heathwren. Per your article List of birds of South Australia, some sites and the authority (Gould 1843) it's a Calamanthus cautus. Wikipecies and other places list it as Hylacola cautus. My Slater Field Guide to Australian Birds (2000 ed) has it down as Sericornis cautus, and all three forms seem to be used by reputable sites. Is there some sensible way to pick a name ? I'm assuming here of course that this is a type of issue you've encountered with Flora. Thanks in advance for any help you can give - Peripitus (Talk) 11:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I have indeed come across this kind of issue many times with flora, and with respect to flora I am usually equipped to give a definitive answer. Not so with fauna. The authority on Australian bids would be the recently published Systematics and taxonomy of Australian birds, but I don't have a copy. The Australian Faunal Directory lists Hylacola as a synonym of Calamanthus (Hylacola), and c cautus as a synonym of Calamanthus (Hylacola) cautus. This suggests rather strongly that Hylacola has recently been demoted to a subgenus of Calamanthus, in which case Calamanthus cautus would the correct title. But before you create a new article, have a close look at Shy Heathwren. Hesperian 11:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You have been most helpful - thank you. I'm so used to searching by the binomial that looking for the common name didn't occur. From his resources listing User:Maias may have a copy...if not I'll track it down here. thanks again - Peripitus (Talk) 12:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gawks

It looks like a milhist battle list now :) I have gone into the next room to see what I have - part 4 1975, part 3 1965 (sic), part 2 1956, part 1 1959 reprint - and some great 1950's and 1960's book shop tabs - I preferred to see names of assistants/revisers that come with the pub details but when i see the full picture - yeah well. It was an industry not a book Satu Suro 01:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Damned nuisance I was trying to catch up with him about 18 months before he died, had phone calls, and a possible meetup with George - oh well we all gotta go sometime :( Satu Suro 07:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Any idea?

What happened here? Do you think this was vandalism, or just a newbie making a gaffe? Retarius | Talk 09:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sable Antelope

There is a Sable and a Sable Antelope in Africa. The page Sable Antelope is actually about a regular African Sable. A Sable Antelope is a completely different animal. I suggest that someone change the name to African Sable.Mattkenn3 ^talk 00:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I have sought advice on this. I am informed that according to Mammal species of the world, which is as close as we can get to a standard source on common names, the "Sable Antelope" is Hippotragus niger. Hesperian 05:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Procedurally

Is there any process being abused or other wise - if I created redirects for bioregions and sub regions to the main shark bay art for the mo - and then down the line created them into arts when there is the time or the material - is there any 'official process' being abused by doing that? cheers Satu Suro 05:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It is a matter of preference I think. Personally I don't like that kind of redirect, because they disguise the absence of an article. For example I delete any redirect from species to genus that I find, because it falsely makes the species into a blue link. But there are more things in heaven and earth, SatuSuro, than are dreamt of in my philosophy, so make your own decision. Hesperian 06:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Heheh like my tagging your new arts and cats with project tags :| ok I think that a skeleton stub is indeed probably the better way to go - thanks for the sounding out on that - cheers Satu Suro 06:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You in talking mode? Satu Suro 13:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

For you? always. Whassup? Hesperian 13:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

bloody edit conflict on your talk page classic :) neville is usually published as N G, and I cannot believe that the Bibliography of Australia and John Alexander Ferguson (tying in info about botanical miscellany) arent on wikipedia - what a bunch of cretins we must be not to have an art - or am i searching wrong :( Satu Suro 13:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

No, you were right the first time; we are cretins. Especially me, since we still don't have an article on the flora of Western Australia.

I've moved Neville to N. G. Hesperian 13:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2045408 - this ref is to what book dealers always refer to and i cannot believe that someone hasnt put it in - either under his name or the title name :( Satu Suro 13:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC) If you agree you cannot see it on wikipedia - ill start a stub in a sec or two :) Satu Suro 13:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

{{sofixit}}. By the way, did you know that Edgar Dell died a couple of months ago, at the ripe old age of 106? Hesperian 13:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC) Will do - first part - second part - no i didnt - my folks used to know em all through the nats, wildflowers, raou or whatever, or various circles - and i didnt realise that one got away with that sort of innings - good stuff Satu Suro 13:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

BTW i supect that the the miscellany stubcan be expanded - like do oyu have access to the contents pages? Satu Suro 13:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

http://books.google.com/books?id=51cCAAAAYAAJ. Hesperian 14:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You might want/need to get rid of my N G Marchant redirect page :( Satu Suro

Nah, it's okay. Hesperian 14:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Feguson will have to come later - have collected enough - as for dell i am about to put henriettas first poke in :| Satu Suro 14:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed goodnight too Satu Suro 14:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Province or region?

I'm adding some links to the Halden article and I've noticed in different places the use of both of the words "Province" and "Region" to describe the Leg. Council's electorates. Has there been a change in the terminology? I seem to remember "province" from way back, but I'm not sure. Also, isn't the article on the Leg. Council now out of date on the electoral weighting issue? Retarius | Talk 06:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dendy

Hi Hesperian. Is this right? Under the Dendy disambiguation page is an entry for Dendy Films. Looks like a Wikipedia link but in fact it links straight to the outside? I'm guessing this is not correct Wikipedia practice but may be wrong as I am still learning the ropes here.Sterry2607 (talk) 10:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Ta, I shall fix. See, it's so much easier to ask someone than to go looking - though perhaps I could have found it easily if I'd actually tried! Anyhow, I shall go fix it now. Cheers and thanks again.Sterry2607 (talk) 13:22, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

I've been having trouble figuring out Huggle, since I just started using it. My lack of knowledge has led to many mistakes on my behalf, so I apologize. -- iMatthew _T.C. 12:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Doing... -- iMatthew _T.C. 13:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I'm so sorry

I was getting to the apology bit...I'm sorry. :( I saw the page move and I thought it was vandalism. I went to move it back as soon as I realised. Apologies again, PeterSymonds (talk) 23:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Egg on the face

Hello! As per your comment to me about having egg on my face in regard to an AfD regarding a certain Australian island, I would hope that you accept this token of my appreciation:

		The Barnstar of Good Humour
		For your egg-cellent manner in dealing with egg-asperating editors whose knowlege of Australian geography is something less than egg-hilirating. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Needless to say, I will spend more time egg-amining my geographic research. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)