Template talk:Indo-Aryan-speaking regions

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So, what is this? the template is very empty because if you cagetorize the nations with language speaking in everywhere, like english and french will be all over the world. i require fast delete it.

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[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Indo-Iranian-speaking

Template:Indo-Iranian-speaking has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --zaparojdik 23:43, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] East Asian and Caribbean states?

What are Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia doing in this template? I can't find any reference to Indo-Aryan languages spoken there elsewhere on WP. Myanmar says something about Pāli, but that's only a dead liturgical language, not a spoken language for all I can see. Bhutan has a Nepali speaking minority, but apparently without official status. Guyana has an immigrant population group of Indian descent, but Demographics of Guyana lists no Indian languages still being spoken. For Suriname, Demographics of Suriname lists Hindustani as widely spoken, but no information about official status. Same for Trinidad and Tobago. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:45, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

You raise some good points. This needs further clarification and some states should be removed. I think only those states with an official language in the Indo-Iranian group should be included. Also, the whole of India does not speak Sanskrit-based languages - there are Dravidian languages such as Tamil. So, there should be a list of those Sanskrit-based languages under India. Also South Ossetia is not an independent country.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 19:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redundent controvercy?

Hummm why are there so many "unofficial" countries listed along with "unofficial" ones?

I have removed the Kurdistan one. Iraqi Kurdistan itself does not claim to be an independent existence. It is just a part of Iraqi federal structure.

--Cat out 16:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent additions

Those recent additions won't stay per other language templates {{Slavic-speaking}}, {{Turkic-speaking}} and {{Germanic Europe}}. Only countries or autonomous regions/territories with an official X language can be grouped together. Otherwise, if the only criteria are "minorities", people can add Turkic-speaking to Iran, Greece and Germany, Germanic speaking to France because of Alsace, Slavic speaking to Turkey because there are more than two million Eastern European immigrants who have settled in Turkey since the 1980s, Greek and Arabic-speaking to Turkey, Arabic-speaking to Israel etc etc. Stick to official languages, and specify clearly if it is an "official" autonomous region/entity. Don't just say "yes, there are so many X who speak in that country, so let's slap the flag of the whole country in there with a tiny footnote" Please do not revert back to the bigger version, let's not waste our time. The other templates are there for reference. Baristarim 05:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Adding Turkic speaking to Iran would seem sensible, given that 30% of the population is Azeri. Additionally, Arabic is an official language of Israel. In general, it seems to me that if a whole large region of a country speaks a language in the group in question, it's okay to include it. It's ridiculous to include India and China on this template, but to exclude Turkey and Uzbekistan. Would you also think that a template for Bantu-speaking countries should exclude Angola, Cameroon, Congo-Kinshasa, Gabon, Mozambique, Namibia, Uganda, Zambia and Zimbabwe because there is no Bantu official language in any of these countries? john k 22:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A couple of issues

  1. As far as I'm aware, Pashto is not an official language in India. That some people speak it there does not mean India should be listed as a country with Iranian languages as an official language
  2. Furthermore, as far as I'm aware, the only official languages in Pakistan are Urdu and English. So if we are really sticking to an "official languages only" policy, Dardic and Iranian should both be removed (although there's obviously a ton of Pashtos and Balochis in Pakistan).
  3. Similarly, I've never seen Nurestani or any Dardic language listed as an official language of Afghanistan - just Pashto and Dari Persian. Finally, as far as I'm aware, the Dardic languages are generally classified as Indo-Aryan. john k 19:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overloaded template

Someone has obviously been having fun with this template. It contained a list of countries where Indo-Aryan languages are spoken together with a virtually complete duplicate of the content of {{Iranian-speaking regions}} and a little bit of a fantasy element. The Dardic languages and Nuristani were being treated as a separate branches because apparently the Dardic languages article claims they are sometimes treated as a separate branch of Indo-Iranian languages and lists Ethnologue as an external link. That link shows both Dardic and Nuristani as part of the Indo-Aryan branch. The template was also listed on the Malaysia article which is false because Malay is not Indo-Iranian and the only significant South Asian population is the Tamils who speak a Dravidian language. I have therefore removed everything except the Indo-Aryan list. If anyone has a valid reason for including the absurd fantasy elements, please explain here before you add them. Green Giant (talk) 15:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)