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Hutterites emphasize family life. Married couples remain married for their entire lives. If there is a single person in the colony, one of the married families will take him or her in as a member of their family.

Edit: They are not nessesarily taken in as a member of the family, but are given a home of their own after a certain age. It can be any age. Whenever the person decides that it's time, or when their parents die, they take over the family house.

Contents 1 Doukhobors 2 Current Challenges Section? 3 Michael Hari 4 WP:NOT a free webhost 5 Math problems 6 Two Hutterite martyrs tortured? 7 picture 8 Bruderhof/Arnoldlieut

[edit] Doukhobors

I'm not sure why the Doukhobors are included in the links. They are not anabaptists, or even baptists. They no longer live communally, although they once did, as did many ethnic groups after arriving to settle in North America.Landroo 05:23, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I remember seeing this link and was going to post a question about it, but then just forgot. CWood 01:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current Challenges Section?

Are there any sources for the Current Challenges section? It makes a number of statements that aren't sourced.

[edit] Michael Hari

Has anyone heard about Michael Hari and his children?The story was featured on the Dr Phil show a while ago.He abducted his two children and went to live in a Hutterite community somewhere in the US.Since I am not from America,I was wondering if they had found the kids.I was thinking about starting an article about controversy in the church and it would be helpful to have that information.Serenacw 02:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Might check out the following, though I think it's well outside of the Wiki article.

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=33165

http://www.elmendorfbelievers.com/dr_phil.php

Quick note: Elmendorf is not considered a Hutterite community (according to the Hutterites). They are a splinter church which broke away from the Hutterite church and are more affiliated with Charity Church Ministries.

In response to the Doctor Phil show--controversy sells, not the truth.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Iankl (talk • contribs) 02:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

(Please sign your posts on talk pages with ~~~~.) Can you say more about Charity Church Ministries? Are there other former Hutterite groups involved, or what would attract a splinter group to them? Just curious. JonHarder 13:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The official site for Charity is http://www.charityministries.org. Heart Beat of the Remnant is one of their publications: http://www.charityministries.org/theremnant/index.cfm. It was started by a former Amish man and a Baptist preacher. Their theology is unique in blending Mennonite doctrines with fundamentalist Christianity. They also are particularly stringent in applying religious regulation.

The only direct similarity they would have with the Hutterites would be that Mennonites and Hutterites are both of the Anabaptist tradition. I believe that Charity has made at least one trip to evangalize the Hutterites [1].

I am not the same anon poster as above, so can't address his/her comment on Dr. Phil.

[edit] WP:NOT a free webhost

This is an encyclopedia, not a website for Hutterites. Please rewrite this in an encyclopedic manner. Thank you. --Fang Aili ^talk 18:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

What exactly are you talking about? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.191.19.42 (talk) 22:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

The addition of pages of unencyclopedic and copyrighted material, which have been reverted. See the Dec 1 edit activity. --Fang Aili ^talk 22:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I think this article needs some serious work, it's way too casual in tone and also feels like it steps over the line as far as NPOV goes. Andrewhime 19:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Math problems

In the section near the bottom of the page which details the number and location of various Hutterite colonies, the numbers don't add up. It says there are 472 colonies, but it adds up to 473. If anyone has access to the original source, these numbers should be verified to see whether the total is incorrect, the subtotals are incorrect, or if the source itself is incorrect. --Rob 05:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Does it really matter if it is +/-1. I could see if it were 20% but let's not be anal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.230.176.119 (talk) 01:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not really concerned about one colony either way (though I'm not sure how that missing colony would feel!), but it points to a possible misquote, which may mean that there are other errors in the numbers. --Rob (talk) 19:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two Hutterite martyrs tortured?

Article makes a rather grandiose claim about 2 members being tortured and killed at Ft Leavenworth for refusing military service during WW1. Such a grand claim should be supported by more than a mis-referenced link leading to a blog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richl025 (talk • contribs) 05:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I know of a source at the local library, I will post shortly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.230.176.119 (talk) 01:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] picture

I took out this picture. I can't find a relationship within the text. --Hao Xi (talk) 13:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bruderhof/Arnoldlieut

It is true that whastever the Bruderhof are calling themselves now, they do not belong to he hutterites Anymore However, they did at one time. Given that this is an encyclopedia article on Hutterites and not a web site for the Hutterites I think a reference to the ArnoldLieut/Bruderhof which makes clear that they were but are no longer a part of the Hutterites belongs under the "Types" section and not as an orphaned sentence in the body of the text.

Whatever their status now, they were a type of Hutterite from 1974-1990 and apparently at a few other times as well. Encylopedia articles deal with historic as well as current events. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.228.17 (talk) 13:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)