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I think the section on language statistics would be closer to the truth if you add the secondary speaker populations to the primary speaker populations of each language. In doing so you get the following (and I believe more accurate) list: (number of speakers in parentheses)

Mandarin Chinese (1.12 billion) English (480 million) Spanish (320 million) Russian (285 million) French (265 million) Hindi/Urdu (250 million) Arabic (221 million) Portuguese (188 million) Bengali (185 million) Japanese (133 million) German (109 million)

Race and Ethnicity

So this part leaves one hanging, instead of discussing race and ethnicity, why does it prefer to talk about the origins of humans and not anything else about race and ethnicity. It first states that some humans may identify themselves with race or ethnicity, but it never really talks about it. Why is racism being mentioned here anyway?


Origin of Humans

I recently read that the earliest human skull identical to our own is about about 90,000 years old. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article. Also the article should explicitly state the age of our subspecies H. s. sapiens.

I disagree. This sub-species name no longer exists. It was used to distinguish us from homo sapiens neanderthalensis. Neanderthals are now thought to have been a different species - homo nealderthalensis, and we are homo sapiens Orlando098 (talk) 21:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we are H. s. sapiens. There is at least one other subspeices: H. s. idaltu. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Er...

Why does "non-human" redirect here? And what if a child sees this article? I think the article should have a more appropriate picture. Elasmosaurus (talk) 05:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Good question. There are many things that are Non-human e.g. Aliens or machines, so I think that by knowing what human is someone could work out the set of what was not human. Which picture is a problem ?. They all look OK. The taxobox(picture is excellent as it's the Pioneer plaque depiction which was designed to be as neutral but representative of the majority of the human species.Ttiotsw (talk) 06:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
God forbid a child should know humans have reproductive organs. Deltabeignet (talk) 04:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm afraid i do not understand your complaint... Do you find any pornographic content or any other unethical information in this article? Or do you think that a child should not have any idea of his/her own anatomy? 82.208.174.72 (talk) 22:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The translation of Homo sapiens

Latin, like most other languages, distinguishes humans, men, and women. Homo sapiens means a wise human, not a wise man. The former may sound awkward because human comes from homo, but the latter is just incorrect. - TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 02:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the Latin word homo means both human and man so Homo sapiens means both wise man and wise human. 88.112.99.229 (talk) 09:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Who agrees this page should be nominated for Featured Content?

It seems like a good idea, after all, this article is a well written, amazing piece of work. And, wouldn't it seem smart to feature the page for the human race, like going back to basics? This is a good article and no piece of it feels out of place currently. It's pictures are good and display the human race effectively, with its wars, technology and religion. And it cites every piece of evidence it has, look at that long citation list.Zombielegoman (talk)

[edit] Humans are atleast Seven million years old

In 2001 scientists found a human skull that was seven million years old placing our species Homo Sapien at atleast 7 million years old. Here are some sources of one this important discovery.


http://www.bananasinpyjamas.com/science/articles/2002/07/15/605620.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2118055.stm

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,31500-12032436,00.html

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Skull+shocker%3A+a+7-million-year-old+skull+has+scientists+asking+%22who+...-a099554847 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maldek (talkcontribs) 03:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Maldek, did you actually read the BBC article you linked above? It says nothing about a human skull or homo sapien [sic] skull. This talk page is newly archived; can we please not fill it up with the same old nonsense? Rivertorch (talk) 04:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] We are Humans

So write the article intended to be read by us, not some aliens! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.255.34.152 (talk) 23:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

It is not policy to write "us" and "our". The article is written from the third person perspective, as is appropriate. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
And, if we were to establish contact with alien civilizations tomorrow, we won't need to rewrite the article. Zazaban (talk) 03:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Let us not exaggerate. All articles on Wikipedia must be written in an objective manner, and from a 3rd person point of view. No article must contain personal opinions what so ever... 82.208.174.72 (talk) 22:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Human post incorrect

"Around 2,000–3,000 years ago, some states, such as Persia, India, China and Rome, developed through conquest into the first expansive empires. Influential religions, such as Judaism, originating in the Middle East, and Hinduism, a religious tradition that originated in South Asia, also rose to prominence at this time."

When I add Greece into this, it was denied.. Why is that so?

Considering the Makedonian Empire was before Rome, and Greece was around 6,000 years ago.

Also the belief in the 12 Gods was formed around this time, and then Christianity came into power via the Greeks 2000's years ago (and became the first and only Christian state during the 3rd - 4th centuries). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Divius (talkcontribs) 23:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

The article reads as if written by a human. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.228.138 (talk) 23:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC) NOTE: +1 FOR HUMOR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.139.175 (talk) 02:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)