Talk:Hua (state)

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Alles ist wahr.Sehr richtig.Tuerken schreiben dass die Warhunnen "tuerken" waren.Es ist luege.

Discovered in revision dated 07:32, 16 April 2006 prior to substantial edits by User:Eiorgiomugini

The Huaguo in northern Henan was destroyed by Qin Shi Huang, and the Hua tribe sought refuge in Shanxi. They came under the Xiongnu and later the Rouran. While some Hua still exist in Shanxi, between 410-470CE a Hua-Guni (滑-混夷 aka Varkuni/Varkoni or Avar-Huns ) pact was established and the Hua tribe rose to such a position of power that the Rouran placed them in charge of the huíhé 回紇 area when they conquered them in 460CE. Soon the Hua split into western (Hvar) and eastern (Hua) branches when they came to be ruled by a Yuezhi family called Yanda 厌哒 (traditional characters 厭達). According to the Liang "Chih-kung-t'u" the eastern Hua later re-emerged under the leadership of the Yanda; in 541CE when they started to assert control of the huíhé 回紇 area independently from the Rouran. At the same time because of their royal family they came to be known as Yanda by outsiders, but internally they still called themselves Hua. Meanwhile the western Hvar branch migrated into Hualazimu (花剌子模 aka Kua-Li-kia) and still exist to this day in Dagestan and on the northern slopes of the Caucasus. From this location they launched the European Avar empire, and enjoyed their last flourish of prowess under Kuber before settling in Transylvania to join the Magyar federation as the Havar. Several central European family names derive from the name of this tribe.

If true this would explain some of the questions I have asked on the Talk:Uar page.Kaz 15:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC) I have just had confirmation from a friend that the 滑 family book as well as the online texts of the book of Liang and the Liang Zhigongtu (Liang Portraits of Periodical Offering) together do indeed confirm that the people of the 滑 state destroyed by Qin did indeed move to Shanxi (Linfen in fact) and that one of the Liang dynasty's origin theories for the Hephthalites is that they did come from Linfen. Very interesting. Apparently User:Eiorgiomugini deleted this info unjustly. Kaz 15:52, 2 September 2006 (UTC)