Talk:Howell, Michigan

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[edit] Klan Activities

I was reviewing recent changes to articles when I came upon an annon IP added statement concerning Klan Activity. I placed a {{Fact}} tag on the relavent sentence. A quick google search proved this to be the case, with a NY Times cite about Klan Leader Robert Miles in the area. This probably deserves more than a sentence in first paragraph. Many of the recent articles concern a Klan robe acquired by a African American History project. WP does not have an article on this particular Robert Miles.Edivorce 00:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I reverted two edits performed on 30 May 2007 by 70.91.238.33, which had removed sourced references to Klan activity, without contesting the statement's accuracy. Their third edit (not reverted) added links to the city's official website. --Sacolcor 19:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality Tag

I have tagged this for bias as it seems that any mention to Howell's KKK connection is being edited out. There is currently no reference to Howell's connection to the Klan at all. I come from the Detroit area and everyone around here knows it as the "KKK City" even if the Michigan Klan headquarters are not there anymore. Therefore, in order for this article to be neutral it needs to be mentioned somewhere. Wikipedia needs to be unbiased; stop removing those references. I don't have time to keep an eye on this constantly, but hopefully now that it's been tagged someone can.Beggarsbanquet (talk) 02:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I concur. The quote from the NYT article reads: "Although Mr. Miles's cross-burning gatherings took place in neighboring Cohoctah Township, it was Howell that was branded as a haven of white supremacist activity." The focus of the article is that Howell continues to deal with the legacy of the KKK's presence in its area. That presence, and its legacy, is of historical interest, and is properly sourced. There is therefore no valid reason to remove such content. Having already undone a similar edit in the past, I will defer to another, however I recommend that the revision in question be reverted. --Sacolcor (talk) 18:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Howell Intro

Just like I make a point of on the Brighton page concering the intro, someone needs to pare this one down. The intro should simply define the location of the city or place, and maybe an interesting fact or two about what the town is known for. All other facts need to be placed in a 'description' category or deleted, altogether. --Criticalthinker 04:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Howell is a large community of many people...only a small minority of them ever had anything to do with KKK and I think it is unnecessarily vindicative to label the town for the actions of a small group. I moved near Howell from Ann Arbor over six years ago, and for four of those years, commuted back to the Ann Arbor area to my church, thinking that any church or community in Howell would be so terribly biased because of the KKK association. Nothing could have been further from the truth. In the past two years I have gotten to know many people in Howell, and all I can say is that they are among the nicest, friendliest, decent people I've ever met. I've lived in many places in the U.S., and I can say unequivocally, that I enjoy this community more than communities I've known in Michigan, Massachusetts, Virginia, Vermont, and California. I've never met anyone who was racially bigoted. It's the kind of place when you go to the grocery store, if the bagger notices that there's a short sell by date, they'll offer to run back in the store and get you something fresher. If you lose a check in a mall parking lot, like I did, it will turn up at the cashier's in the nearest store. When you go swimming at the school pool, you don't need a lock for your locker, because nobody steals. When your car is leaking fluid while out shopping, the person who parks next to you waits for you to make a phone call and offers you a ride home. When you go for a ride on the bike path, everybody you pass says hi....this is a wonderful community!!!! There are very few places left like this in the U.S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.231.191.62 (talk) 00:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad that you have a positive opinion of the place where you live. However, Wikipedia policy prohibits the use of personal experiences as a basis for edits. --Sacolcor (talk) 17:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)