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I am not sure about putting the link to "Virgin Mary" in "See Also" section. Is it an OK convention in wiki?

The general article about Mary is linked to in the body of the text from Mary, the mother of Jesus. The Blessed Virgin Mary link is Roman Catholic-specific, concerning that church's Marian doctrine, which is why it's under "see also." Virgin Mary is not a page with any independent content, but only a disambiguation page, and so nothing is gained from linking directly to that title. Postdlf 22:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Removed << Image:Pope_visit_houseofmary.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Pope John Paul II visited the House of the Virgin Mary in 1979. >> from script as the image was removed from Creative Commons due to licensing issues. Mfryc 20:14, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

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Are there any serious estimates of the time when this barn may have been actually built? --Ghirla -трёп- 11:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Here are some of the answers to my query:

  • "A nineteenth-century German mystic, Catherine Emmerich, had visions of the house and tomb of the Virgin Mary at Ephesos, a place she had never visited. Archaeologists who excavated the site she described uncovered a tiny first-century house, which they declared to be Mary the Virgin's" (Page DuBois, Trojan horses: Saving the Classics from Conservatives, 2001, page 134).
  • "Though some of the foundations of the house may be very old, it is unlikely that the sort of archaeological investigation necessary to establish their date firmly will ever be undertaken" (Richard Wallace, The Three Worlds of Paul of Tarsus, 1998, page 199).
  • "It is worth noting that the tradition of Mary's residence in this city of Asia Minor arose only in the twelfth century. The universal tradition among the Fathers of the Church places her residence, and thereby the locus of her Dormition when one begins to speak of it, in Jerusalem" (Georges Henri Tavard, "The Thousand Faces of the Virgin Mary", 1996, pages 23-24).

Could we add some of this to the article? --Ghirla -трёп- 12:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I've inserted the first reference you've mentioned into the article, the third reference is already cited, and the information in the first and third quotations are now mentioned. I think the second quotation is too subjective to be included in the article. Atilim Gunes Baydin 01:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assumptio of Mary and graveyard - does this fit together?

I can hardly understand how the assumptio of the Virgin Mary fits to the graveyard in Ephesus. Jesus is gone to heaven three days after his death but what about Mary? --Weissmann 16:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)