Talk:History of Gibraltar

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Oct 2005 - Dec 2005 Jan 2006 - Dec 2006

Contents 1 2007 A New beginning 2 Uploading of image 3 Spanish flags 4 Cordoba Agreement

[edit] 2007 A New beginning

As we enter the New Year, there seems to be a sense of co-operation from Spain and a grudging recognition of Gibraltar's existance.

Hopefully this will be reflected in improved relations and fewer edit wars over these pages.

Our persistent banned user should take a moment to re-read the page and should find that some of his complaints have been addressed and others have and will be ignored.

Similarly those who felt the need to change the Gibraltar flag to a different one have learnt the error of their ways.

So from that point, lets move on.

--Gibnews 12:08, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading of image

I recently uploaded an image of the 1842 Half Quart coin issue, yet it was automatically reverted as I was identified as 'a new user editing a page that experiences malicious edits...' I think this article would benefit from this image as I see it quite apt. I believe my change can be reviewed and restored by established users. Chris Buttigieg 21:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Asterion for reverting it. Chris Buttigieg 22:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't be discouraged by 'voices of all' because they most certainly are not ! Sadly the Gibraltar pages have been subject to edit wars, and some people assume that any edits with Gibraltar IP's must be bad. The pages could do with more Gibraltar editors, Carry on adding material Chris. --Gibnews

[edit] Spanish flags

Although the ancient history of Gibraltar may be appropriate to a series of articles about Spain, it is necessary to respect that in Gibraltar and in connection with Gibraltar the use of the spanish flag is highly inflamatory.

Generally the problem is solved that way.

--Gibnews 12:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Your comment "No enemy flags" makes it clear what your objection is - personal POV. If you read the rationale for WikiProject Spain, it is: "to expand and organise information better in articles related to Spanish history, language and culture." Gibraltar's pre-1704 history very clearly comes under this scope. I would agree that the WikiProject Spain template is inappropriate for the main Gibraltar article, because Gibraltar isn't part of Spain, but Gibraltar's history plainly does come under the WikiProject's scope. Please put nationalism to one side - you can hardly argue that Gibraltarian history has nothing to do with Spain. -- ChrisO 13:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

The Spanish flag IS a nationalist symbol. Find a formula to remove it.

In any event the Flag_of_Spain shown was not in use at the time that Gibraltar was Spanish. --Gibnews 20:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough I can live with that. --Gibnews 10:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cordoba Agreement

I have removed the reference to the British Government agreeing not to make nuclear repairs to submarines;

1. The facilities are not capable of nuclear repairs, and never have been.

2. Although mentioned in the Spanish media, its not actually in the published agreement.

--Gibnews 20:47, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. But do note that the addition was made by the banned user Gibraltarian, which is why I reverted it. -- ChrisO 08:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that in Gibraltar IP addresses change periodically, so theoretically an IP from Gibraltar is not necessarily the user Gibraltarian. I once thought that there was one IP address for everyone, but have now learnt otherwise. Chris Buttigieg^talk 08:44, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, I nearly reverted it too. However, in this case it is right. Despite it being claimed in the media as forming part of the agreement, its not in either the MAE or the GoG documents, so taking it out is best. If it was mentioned it would be in the context of double speak as quite what a 'nuclear repair' consists of is contentious, and the GoG is on record as saying they would make it illegal, even were it possible. HMS Tireless has gone but is not forgotten. --Gibnews 09:44, 18 June 2007 (UTC)