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[edit] Admission to the US

Arizona was admitted into the Union on February 14, 1912.

It took me a little while and a bit of IRC to work out what this meant. I think this ought to be altered so that anyone reading it in any country can understand it; it's very slightly POV to assume that everyone knows what Union refers to. Any ideas, anyone? Rob Church Talk | Desk 02:54, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

The way you fixed it is just fine. Toothpaste 13:23, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

I have no real knowledge of Arizona history, but the complaint that there is not enough history presented for the 20th century seems legitimate. --Peter Kirby 07:05, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation

The final two sections of the article, dealing with contemporary history, are mostly sentences cut-and-pasted from the page linked in the copyright notice. The linked page is part of the Arizona governor's site, which carries a formal copyright notice on its front page. Whether any other texts are copied would be an open question. Monicasdude 02:08, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

As per WP:CP rules, I am going to create a temp page and fix the copyvio sections. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:41, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Instructions for adding notes for references

[edit] Websites

Put this in the endnotes section. In the first set of {'s, the website name should be listed. In the title= field, replace Arizona History with the title of the webpage. Replace the URL with the full URL of the page you are viewing, and replace the date and year with the date and year you accessed the webpage.


# {{note|thenaturalamerican.com}} {{Web reference_simple | title=Arizona History | URL=http://thenaturalamerican.com/arizona_history.htm | date= August 21 | year= 2005 }}

Afterward, put

{{ref|thenaturalamerican.com}}

in the article, which will cause the browser to automatically scroll down to the Endnotes section when the reader clicks on the number next to the word where you put the template. Be sure to replace thenaturalamerican.com with the intended website and the same one that you used before. List your references and notes in the same order.

[edit] Books

For books, put

{{note|1}}

in the notes section. Write the bibliography of the book afterward. For example,

Sheridan, Thomas E. (1995). Arizona: A History. Tuscon, AZ: The University of Arizona Press. ISBN 0816515158

Afterward, put

{{ref|1}}

in the place where you intend the reader to be scrolled down from.

Toothpaste 01:29, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Paleo section

The first paragraph of the section on Paleo-Indians doesn't work--the topic sentence appears to have been deleted. The first sentence contains a "however" with no referent, and most of the paragraph appears to be about Alaska, and only later is it (marginally) clear that this has something to do with Arizona. Maryellen MacDonald 03:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Did I fix it sufficiently? Toothpaste 03:58, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Documented history

Documented history, in this case, seems to mean "history recorded by Westerners", ie, Native American historical records are not valid.

Oral histories are not usually counted as "documented history" and so their non-inclusion is acceptable.

Most glyphic representations of historical events have been said to be too ambiguous to be interpreted, but I would say that even if they can't be unambiguously interpreted (and there are arguments that they can be), they are still part of "documented history", the same way that a document telling about the history of a region in an unknown language is still considered to be "documented history" even though it cannot be understood.

However, there is one thing that is relatively unambiguously interpretable and has proven fairly reliable, and that is the calendar stick. The O'Odham calendar stick is a traditional way of recording notable events, including droughts, invasions, floods, and other notable events including more recently a bad car accident (in the late 1980s). --Node 22:02, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I remember reading that in Arizona: A History. that I read in writing this article. I changed the article accordingly. Toothpaste 22:29, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Charles D. Poston deserve mention

(1825–1902), U.S. explorer and author. Charles D. Poston was born on April 20, 1825, in Hardin County, Ky. In 1856 he went to what is now Arizona to open mining and irrigation properties. After the Territory of Arizona was created, he became the first delegate to the United States Congress from Arizona, in 1864. He was often called the Father of Arizona. His writings include ‘Europe in the Summer-Time' (1868).

Poston is mentioned under Arizona Territory, which explores in depth from when it was acquired in the Mexican Cession until when it became a state. Charles Debrille Poston also likely warrants his own article. Feel free to create it if you wish. Toothpaste 02:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

http://www.zoroastriankids.com/1878.html

[edit] Nero Mammoths

Hi guys,

I sort of have a question for you!

This sentence appears on History of Kansas and History of Arizona: In a sense, the hunters who pursued the Nero mammoths may have represented the first of north Great plains cycle of boom and bust, relentlessly exploiting the resources until it has been depleted or destroyed.

Now, here is my question: what on earth were Nero Mammoths? The only places on the web were these poor beasts are mentioned are... History of Kansas and History of Arizona!

Thank you for answering or commenting... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.254.71.2 (talk • contribs) 14:33, August 16, 2007 (UTC)

I have changed the term to mammoths and left a note at User talk:Reddi asking for clarification. Flyguy649 talk contribs 16:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
OK, I would have done that myself but I prefer not to contribute in a non-mother language. I left a note to Reddi myself before. This is weird, the whole think doesn't sound like Reddi coined the term himself, but Nero mammoth are truely inconnus au bataillon! Thank you anyway, Hervé 194.254.71.2 07:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)