Talk:High Seas Fleet

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Heligoland was a British victory

You present Heligoland as "inconclusive". Well, it certainly wasn't decisive for the outcome of the war, but it was a British victory according to the wikipedia article you link to. Incidentally, that article spells Heligoland with an "i".

Sensemaker

Re: the numbers of German vessels surrendered - see | Beatty's orders which shows that the expected numbers were 9 battle ships, 5 battle cruisers, 7 light cruisers and 50 destroyers. Hearsay evidence - two destroyes failed to leave port.

Fenton Robb 10:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-war politics

Should be more on pre-War politics. Germany made a serious attempt at the beginning of the 19th century to build up a surface navy that would rival Britain's. However, for Germany its navy and overseas colonies were more of a symbolic show-the-flag international prestige type of thing, rather than having any great practical importance, while Britain was a maritime power which was not self-sufficient in food production, and so was basically dependent on shipments of food from overseas to avoid starvation -- and this meant that Britain would do whatever it took to match and exceed Germany in the naval arms race, regardless of the cost, as a life-and-death matter. In the end, when WW1 came, the German surface navy didn't seriously challenge British sea power outside the North Sea, and didn't really give Germany any great military advantage in the North Sea, but building up the navy had soured British-German relations in the years preceding WW1. If not building up the navy would have meant that Britain wouldn't intervene on the side of France, Germany would have done a lot better not to build up its surface navy. AnonMoos 17:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Some additional info at Fleet Acts and scattered in various subsections of Causes of World War I. -- AnonMoos 21:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order of Battle?

What about creating a section that would allow a user to quickly acess pages devoted to the vessels that composed the High Seas Fleet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.115.86.14 (talk) 12:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)