Talk:Heartbeat (TV series)

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Contents 1 WHY IS IT CALLED HEARTBEAT? 2 Ashfordly 3 Characters' names 4 Chronology 5 Ratings and viewing figures 6 The Royal 7 Trivia 8 Dr James Alway 9 4.3 to 16:9 10 Fair use rationale for Image:Heatbeat-Nick-Rowan.jpg

[edit] WHY IS IT CALLED HEARTBEAT?

There has never been any obvious explanation as to why the show is called 'HeartBeat' - is it because he's 'on the beat'? but he's not called PC Heart, is he? Why is the show called Heartbeat?Magic Pickle 14:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

• According to the ITV website: "We agonised for a long time over the title because 'Country Constable' sounded like a painting... Eventually our Director of Programmes came up with the name Heartbeat, representing the bobby’s beat and the medical connotations of the word 'heart'" I have added a note to the article to this effect. Matt 13:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC).

But there is less of a medical connection since Berry's wife left / died, (whatever). Why didn't they just name it Constable? Magic Pickle 00:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps another reason why the series was named "Heartbeat" (referring to both the police and medical presence in the series) might have been because the original Police Constable in the series, Nick Rowan, was marred to a doctor, Kate Rowan. Figaro 07:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's exactly why it was named HeartBeat. However, Kate Rowan was only in a tiny percentage of episodes considering how many have since been made since she left. I believe the title should have been changed at that point. It was an obscure title anyway. Magic Pickle 17:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

The "medical connection" is still going strong. Since Kate Rowan's time there have been at least four more Aidensfield doctors - plus miscellaneous other medical workers - who have played central roles. And it would be silly to change the name of a successful show. Matt 23:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC).

So what? The doctors in Star Trek had prominent roles but the show wasn't named HeartTrek. Greengrass had a prominent role in HeartBeat but it wasn't called TrampBeat. If we're basing it on medicine why not BloodBeat, or LungBeat? It's a daft name for a series - it should have been named Constable. Magic Pickle 18:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

But the original premise was as a vehicle for Nick Berry as a Policeman, and Nimah Cusak as a Doctor. They were the two central characters when the series began, the only other one really being Blaketon. The others were more background characters. Even Greengrass didn't appear on a weekly basis in the beginning. Hence 'Heart' and 'Beat'. It would have been pointless to re-name a well established programme, and, as said, there has been a very strong medical presence throughout. Another unoffical idea is that as village bobby, Nick (and his successors) effectively keep their finger on the 'heartbeat' of village life. User:Jay Firestorm 18:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

But HeartBeat is such an oblique name for a show based on a doctor and a constable. You could rename Casualty 'heartbeat' or even The Bill 'HeartBeat' because as, city coppers, the team of The Bill keep their fingers on the 'heartbeat' of city life. Take 'the Royal' (a much more sensible name for a show - and a spinoff from Heartbeat at that) it wasn't named I dunno, HeartWatch or something. And I would argue, although the police presence is central to Heartbeat, the medical presence is much less, the police aspect was always greater - perhaps they should have just named it 'Beat' or 'Village Beat'. So the medical presence is much less now, requiring the need for a series name change. Again I would argue the medical presence wasn't as great as the police presence in the beginning anyway. Magic Pickle 15:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

From a modern search based point of view it is a lousy name. eg easy to find YouTube clips about Emmerdale but pretty impossible with Heartbeat, SqueakBox 16:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ashfordly

Is that right in the first paragraph - fictional North Yorkshire town of Ashfordly, whose "patch" also includes the nearby village of Aidensfield, - I know the police house is in aidensfield, and that the police station is somewhere else, but I never knew that Ashfordly was the town... as far as I was aware, Ashfordly was the country estate and therefore the parish, but I'm sure I've never heard it mentioned as a town. I'm not going to change it because I'm not sure, but if somebody knows could they please confirm here please. Saccerzd 16:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

It is definitely a town. It is where the police station is. There is also a country estate called Ashfordly Estate, owned by Lord Ashfordly.

[edit] Characters' names

Has the first name of DI Shiner, Mrs. Ventress or Sgt Nokes ever mentioned? My friend insists that Sgt Nokes' first name is Jennifer and Phil Bellamys real first name is Phillip. Is that true? And what about other "real" first names? Crane's real first name was Stephen, Mike Bradley was Michael Dunstan Bradley, Gina is really Georgina, Rosie's real first name is Rosemary and Rob Walker is possibly Robert (Alf (Alfred Ventress?) and Oscar call him Bobby Walker in the beginning of 14th series). Correct me if I am wrong, if I am not then complete please.

Rosie's real name is definitely Rosemary as she is occasionally referred to as such, so I have added this one. Gina's real name was already mentioned. Though it seems very likely that Phil's real name is Phil(l)ip, and Rob's name is Robert, and Alf's is Alfred, I have never heard these mentioned, so I haven't changed these.

David called Phil as Philip in Season 15 Episode 12 Auld Acquitance.

At the weddings real names are uncovered. Mike was Michael Dunstan Bradley he married Jacqueline Rosemary Lambert.Rob was revealed as Robert in his wedding seremony but does anyone remember Nick's and Jo's wedding was there any name revelations.

In one episode (sorry I don't even remember which season) Oscar and Alf went to buy carpets from some Oscar's lady friend and she said something like "You must be Alfred, Oscar has told so much about you." When Walker appeared first episode of 14th season, Alf and Oscar called him Bobby Walker. Steve Crane once introduced himself as Stephen Crane.

Steve Crane introduced himself as Stephen first and only time in his very first episode.

Sergeant Nokes' first name is definetely Jennifer. Should it be added to the article part? Here in Finland is Heartbeat very popular and famous serie. Nokes' first name was said in her first episode (The seventh year itch) and it's Jennifer. You can check this detail for example in this page http://ohjelmat.info/tv/tiedot.tv?t=&s=&id=TV120050908003 or http://www.oho.fi/tvopas/?vw=channel&ch=tv1&dy=08.09.2005 and even if these program pages have been written in Finnish, those names "Jennifer Nokes" and also Bellamy are there where has been written "Sydämen asialla", which means "Heartbeat" in English.

[edit] Chronology

Although now "stuck" in 1969, I'm positive there was an episode where a character's wife died & he visited the grave, the grave clearly said 1970 for the year. This was around 3 or 4 years ago IIRC. Youreds91 09:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ratings and viewing figures

Figaro, where did you get the idea that "ratings comments are considered as POV comments on Wikipedia and are not supposed to be mentioned in articles"? The first five popular TV programmes that came to my mind – The Simpsons, The X Factor, Who Wants to Be a Millionnaire, Coronation Street and Eastenders – all have information about ratings and/or viewing figures in the main article, so plenty of people clearly do not share that view. In my opinion the paragraph about ratings and viewing figures that I added to this article is perfectly legitimate and relevant factual information. I really don't understand why you have a problem with it, and I cannot agree that it belongs under "Trivia". Matt 16:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC).

Matt - it is not my own idea. The ratings and viewing figures have been removed from other articles by other people — and, the reason given by those people for edits, regarding ratings and viewing figures, is what I based my own comment and edit on. As you feel that the ratings and viewing figures are essential to the article, I will leave the information on the page - including its position on the page.

By the way, when you add references to the text of articles in future, could you please Wikify them (in the same way that I have done for your references - including creating a 'Reference' section etc.), so that I will not have to Wikify your references in future. Figaro 20:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Royal

Isn't the Royal a spinoff of Heartbeat? Kc4 22:38, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Confirmed The Royal is a spin-off but isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. Kc4 22:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

When was the first connection between The Royal and Heartbeat? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.211.199.112 (talk • contribs) 08:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

According to the article - with the twelfth-series Heartbeat episode "Out of the Blue" serving as an introductory pilot for the show. Keith D 11:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Apparently, the choice of music is something of an 'in joke' at the company, and the rather corny choices are actually intentional humour. (i.e. anybody entering a clothes shop does so to 'Dedicated Follower of Fashion'; a suspect legging it across the moors always provokes 'Keep On Running' etc). 160.84.253.241 09:43, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr James Alway

Could someone who remembers this doctor please write something about him. I am not even sure about his name but I remember one male doctor who was quite short time in the season 12. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.211.199.112 (talk) 06:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC).

He was played by Francis Matthews, he came in for a few episodes as a locum, when the previous incumbent managed to escape the show alive ;). He was a crossover character from The Royal. Youreds91 09:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 4.3 to 16:9

When did they start to make Heartbeat in aspect of 16:9 ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.251.120.224 (talk) 20:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

Seasons from one to ten are made in 4:3 and from eleven to now they are in 16:9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.105.96.124 (talk) 08:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Heatbeat-Nick-Rowan.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:20, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Done.--UpDown (talk) 08:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)