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Article milestones Date Process Result October 28, 2007 WikiProject peer review Reviewed January 14, 2008 Good article nominee Listed February 24, 2008 Featured article candidate Promoted Current Status: Featured article

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Contents 1 GA Review 2 Response to GA Review 3 GA Pass 4 Staples Thesis 5 Article Vandalism 6 Two criticisms

[edit] GA Review

Hi, I've chosen Harold Innis to GA review. I haven't actually read the article yet so don't expect a review for another day or two. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 00:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I have read the article and am suitably impressed. Some very small things:

• "...at one of Ontario's teachers colleges." Is teachers colleges correct, or should it be teachers' colleges?
• "He delivered several introductory economics courses and later married Mary Quayle who had been one of his students." Perhaps separate into two senteces unless the two are related.
• What year did they marry in? Also, it is convenient for the reader it the article explicitly gives an actual age of the subject at certain benchmarks: saves the reader from useing his fingers and toes to do the calculation. For example, "Now a 28 year old, in 1942, John Smith married Jane Doe." Inelegant but gives the idea.
• "Together they produced four children,..." I don't like 'produced'.
• "He tried to show that media 'biases' toward time or space affected the complex inter-relationships needed to sustain an empire -- especially the partnership between the knowledge and ideas necessary to create and maintain it on the one hand, and the power (or force) required to expand and defend it, on the other." Overly complex sentence.
• "For Innis, the interplay between knowledge and power was always a crucial factor in understanding empire:[47]

Innis argued that a balance between the spoken word and writing contributed to the flourishing of ancient Greece in the time of Plato.[48] This balance between the time-biased medium of speech and the space-biased medium of writing was eventually upset, Innis argued, as the oral tradition gave way to the dominance of writing and the torch of empire eventually passed to Rome.[49]

" Is the part after the colon a quote? It is separated from the colon by more than a space.

Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 03:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response to GA Review

Thanks for these constructive and extremely helpful suggestions. I have made the necessary changes. Bwark (talk) 21:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Pass

This article as far as I understand Wikipedia:Good article criteria, Wikipedia:Manual of Style, and Wikipedia:Writing better articles passes GA. I suggest trying to take it to Wikipedia:Featured articles as I think it would stand a chance; of course, I could be wrong on that. Really good job. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 03:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Staples Thesis

I wonder if the Staples thesis is really what makes Mr. Innis stand out as "one of Canada's most original thinkers"? The extremely close juxtaposition of these two points makes it look like this is what was intended by the author of this article. To be explicit, I didn't have a clue what makes Canada what it is, but the export of basic commodities might be a prime factor all right; what's so revolutionary about that, and why would "dense and difficult prose" about it indicate a superior train of thought?Friendly Person (talk) 15:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

You are quoting from the lead to the article on Innis. The lead summarizes Innis's intellectual contributions to economic and communications theory after pointing out that he was an original thinker. Bwark (talk) 18:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article Vandalism

Lock this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.222.250.240 (talk) 00:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but it is today's Featured Article. These types of articles are rarely protected, except under extreme circumstances. Johnny Au (talk) 16:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it is semi-protected, since it is an extreme circumstance. Johnny Au (talk) 16:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

No it isn't. I'm not logged in and I just reverted vandalism.139.48.25.61 (talk) 18:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

When I posted my message, it was semi-protected. Johnny Au (talk) 18:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Now it is semi-protected again. Johnny Au (talk) 21:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two criticisms

I have a couple of problems with the article. Firstly, it seems to tie him too much into Marshall McLuhan, whereas he obviously held his own views. Secondly, I am not convinced that Social Credit can be called right wing. After all Stalinism was a left wing movement, but with some reactionary tendencies. The central tenet of Social Credit is left wing IMHO.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC) p.s. Excellent choice for a featured article, by the way. Very interesting.