Talk:Hank Aaron

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is within the scope of the following WikiProjects:
Peer review Hank Aaron has had a peer review by Wikipedia editors which is now archived. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article.
This page has been selected for the release version of Wikipedia and rated B-Class on the assessment scale. It is in the category Everydaylife.

Archive 1 - through April 2007

Contents

[edit] Number of home runs by Bonds

Under the title "Home run record eclipsed by Barry Bonds", it says towards the end that "After Bonds hit his record-breaking 716th home run on August 7, 2007". This should be changed to 756th home run.

Henry Aaron did not play in the National league his entire MLB career. The Milwaukee Brewers were members of the American League until 1997. Hank Aaron played on the Brewers from 1975-1976.

Uhh, I do believe you are mistaken about the 756th thing. Babe Ruth's record was of 714 home runs, and Aaron's was of 733 home runs. Why would Bonds break the record 23 runs after the record was actually broken? The 716th thing was written because the 715th of Aaron's was the record breaker, and appearently they believed that home run ended his career, which couldn't be farther from the truth. Echoes134 (talk) 23:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hard telling what you're really trying to say, but in any case, Ruth had 714 in his career, Aaron had 755, so Bonds moved into second place when he hit number 715, and into first place when he hit number 756. Aaron hit 733 in the National League, but that was a league record, not a career record. So Bonds broke Aaron's league record when he hit number 734, but needed 22 more to break Aaron's career record. Ruth, of course, still holds the American League record with 708 (he hit 6 in the National League). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 00:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not trying to offend you, but I was simply trying to make the point that the record wouldn't be set indefinately after it was broken, and it wouldn't make sense if it were to do so. I don't know much about baseball, hockey's my thing, so I just said that so someone would correct the page, because I knew I couldn't. Echoes134 (talk) 18:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
You can't offend me since I still don't know what you're talking about. Bonds broke Aaron's career record when he hit number 756. Each one he hit after that, broke / extended his own record. Whatever his current number may be (and I don't know and really don't care what it is), is the current career record. Is that what you're trying to say? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barry Bonds

I am not a Barry Bonds fan; nor am I hoping he breaks the record. However, I think aits relevant to mention him somewhere in this article, especially the reasoning behind Hank's announcement that he will not attend the game in which Bonds breaks his record. What do others think? M. Frederick 17:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Trevor GH5 16:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree that if/when Bonds breaks Hanks record, it should be referenced that Bonds was the one who did it. However, any reference to what Hank feels about Bonds' use of steriods is totally inappropriate! Hank, himself, stated, during a recent interview for Sun Sports by Chris Dimino, "Hank Aaron: In My Own Words",, that he made the statement of not attending anything to do with the breaking of his record, before the steroid issue emergered. He has always stated that "records were meant to be broken".Flborn 20:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Hank Aaron's law degree

He was awarded an honourary law degree in 1995: [1] . Add it if you think it deserves a mention. --203.206.183.160 12:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


honorary= not noteworthy in terms of diplomas

[edit] Sites to use for resources

I have removed the following links from the EL section. The biography pages seem much more appropriate for sources and 3 stats sites seems excessive. Here the are in case someone wants to use them as sources:

Long levi 06:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion by Long levi of Fangraphs EL

Pls return the fangraphs EL. This has been the subject of an extensive discussion on the baseball wikiproject baseball page. The consensus was to include it as an EL. The one vociferous disagreeing editor has, btw, been banned indefinitely from Wikipedia. Tx.--Epeefleche 10:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I've read all of that stuff. That's why i moved it here.  Long Levi  20:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm confused. That stuff, as you put it, supports Fangraphs being listed as an EL. You moved it. If you are to abide by the consensus on that page, you should put it back as an EL. Am I missing something?--Epeefleche 03:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • No, your not confused. That site does not offer anything that warrants its inclusion over the other sites.  Long Levi  05:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Please don't drag me into your arguments. I am not here to pass judgement on who said what when. I'm just improving the quality of this article. Please be more mindful of the fact that others do not agree with any part of that discussion. Including the fact that you titled the section in what I view as a personal attack on someone. There are already two stats sites in this article. I do not see any benefit to that third link. If you want to put it in, you might consider replacing on of the ones already being used.  Long Levi  00:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm not clear. Which point are you asking me not to bring up any more? That there is consensus over the Fangraphs EL, which I am suggesting be respected? Or that your behavior in refusing to respect the Fangraphs EL consensus mirrors rather dramatically that of Tecmobowl, the banned sockpuppet? Both points seem to me to be legitimate points to raise, in light of your actions (and Tecmo's actions). And I might point out that Tecmo had the same habit of asking that other editors not say things ... if he disagreed with them.--Epeefleche 07:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
  • FYI. Longlevi has just been found to be a sockpuppet of a banned user named Tecmobowl, who has used socks in the past. Accordingly, he has also been banned indefinitely. See [2]--Epeefleche 00:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Post-playing career

"Although some have speculated that this is a snubbing of Bonds based on the ongoing steroids scandal, some have looked back to Aaron's own history and how he downplayed his breaking of Babe Ruth's all-time record, and see Aaron's actions as simply treating Bonds the way he wanted to be treated."

Who is "some"? Why are they relevant? And who cares *why* Hank Aaron refuses to attend Barry Bond's celebratory dinner? As long as he himself does not reveal his motive, all we can do is speculate. Such speculation does not belong in WP. Qifan 14:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] See Also & Stats

Per WP:EL, I don't think the stats section belongs at all. However, in trying to find a compromise, I have shortened the section to display his career statistics. Providing a full list of his career stats will inundate readers and takes up valuable space than could be used to relay content. There are two stats sites already included in the EL section, so a reader can easily access that information if need be.

Per WP:GTL#See_also, I have shortened the See Also section. According to the Guideline section, it appears that all of the information could in fact be removed and incorporated into the article. That being said, a number of categories and templates are already in place to relay the same information that is in the see also article. If one hits 700 home runs, then there is no real need to establish them as a 500 and 600 and 700 "club" member. Considering that the information is already in place with a variety of categories, it needed to be condensed. Rather than outright removal, I have left one link in there that does not appear in another place currently. As the article improves, it is likely that the section can be removed altogether.  Long Levi  21:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: The above user, Longlevi, has been indef banned as a sockpuppet of a banned user/sockpuppet.--Epeefleche 01:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] barry bonds breaks aaron's record

I would like to say congratulations to barry for breaking the all time homerun record set be hank aaron. some people might say barry cheated to get the record but guess what he never tested positive for steroids. when he hit 756 the guy who said he wanted nothing to do with the record hank aaron congratulated him which was very classy unlike bud selig who went to a couple of games and called his effort herculean which is dumb hank aarons message was herculean. bud selig was at milwaukee relaxing thats not herculean. Hank aaron did not follow barry bonds around which is fine because he is old he cant be traveling to san diego san fransisco or any other place.


There is a typo on the wikipedia page, stating that after Bonds hit his 716 homerun on August 7, 2007 that the Aaron video was shown. Obviously, the homerun is number 756 for B. Bonds.

[edit] All Star Game Appearances

I noticed that all three players (supposedly Hank Aaron, Stan Musial, and Willie Mays) with 24 all star appearances played less than 24 seasons in the league, and some sites list Hank's appearances as 21, which excludes his first and last seasons (adding up to his 23 seasons played). I'm not sure what should be put. If somebody knows why it is 24 for these guys, please explain. It's a little weird that there would be so many different and varying amounts across the internet. Thanks. 24.99.219.179 22:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

  • This confustion results from the fact that two all star games were played every year from 1959 to 1962. Aaron was selected to both teams all four of those years, but he only played in three of the four extra games, so 24 is the correct number. The sites that use 21 as the number are counting number of years he made an all star team as opposed to how many all star games he actually played in. Indrian 23:29, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hank Aaron, Brewers and the NL

Henry Aaron played the last two seasons of his career with the Milwaukee Brewers of the American League. Can someone please fix this error?71.125.170.74 04:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I fixed it. In the future, consider making the fixes yourself :) Kingturtle 05:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The word "vitriol" is misspelled in the article.72.83.90.69 (talk) 13:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I fixed it. In the future, please feel free to fix it yourself :) Kingturtle (talk) 14:07, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erdös number

Inserting a note about his Erdös number might be interesting. Being completely oblivious of the baseball world, I don't really know. portugal (talk) 12:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RBI

It isn't mentioned in his achievments page that he is the all time RBI record holder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.78.63 (talk) 01:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)