Talk:Gush Etzion

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I don't think it's really a stub anymore. It's somewhat detailed. The logo was weird, so I removed it. A map might be a good addition. -- Slowking Man

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[edit] what's included?

it's not accurate to include karmay tzur, har giloh, and bietar. maybe neve daniel. the original core region would include k etion, a shvut and rosh tzurim. bat ayin could be included due to its proximity to kfar etion. similaraly elazar, ephrat and migdal oz. n daniel is "sretching it". anything else should be mentioned under the " Gush Etzion Regional Council". Shilonite 22:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article is a POV disgrace

I know these settlements were/had been legal settlements, but the only two legal ways forward for them was to live under Arab sovereignty (/at peace with their neighbours) or evacuate. They chose to stand and fight - to oppose the sovereignty that Zionists (over and over) insist they'd accepted. It's nonsense to treat the settlements as anything other than heavily armed and most unwanted intruders.

And the article even fails to admit (attempts to conceal) what other Zionist supporting material boast of, this was an armed camp eg Kfar Etzion Remembered: A history of Gush Etzion and the Massacre of Kfar Etzion - 'The total fighting force in Gush Etzion consisted, by the spring of 1948, of 535 men and women, including 215 men and 100 women of the kibbutzim and 220 fighters sent by the Haganah'.

PalestineRemembered 10:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome to contribute, not only criticize. --Shuki 21:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
PalestineRemembered, You say that living under Arab sovereignty was an option. It was not. If they had remained they would have been killed. They had no option but to protect themselves. Are you really trying to say that all the Arab armies that attacked Israel were for the sole purpose of helping enforce UN sanctions? They were there to rid the land of the Jews now that the British had left. Leppi 14:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Haganah attacks

From B. Morris, The Road to Jerusalem: Glubb Pasha, Palestine and the Jews, page 135: "During the months before 15 May, Arab civilian and British and Legion military traffic was periodically fired upon along the Hebron-Jerusalem road. The fire came from Haganah militiamen stationed in the Etzion Bloc kibbutzim"--Doron 12:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order of communities

Are the communities in any specific order? It seems to me that they are randomly placed. Leppi 14:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)