Talk:Goldsmith

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Trying to get this topic in shape - I'm a goldsmith of many years. I expect it will be revised, but any suggestions or desired sections from any would be welcome, too. Jjdon (talk) 22:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

is it me or does certain parts of this article look that they have been lifted from a book?

i.e

'What is it that goldsmiths do? Goldsmiths do many things: Located in a social network, they must relate to clients, design, manufacture, sell, and otherwise engage in the host of activities which constitute their social being'


i think a section sould be added about how the bank system originated from middle age goldsmiths.

I clicked the link to the project page listed here and ended up on the project page for "Woodworking". Can somebody correct this link? Kyle Thomas 19:41, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean; I can't find any such link. Can you be more specific? There is a link to wikiproject woodworking on the metalworking project page, but the links above should take you directly to the metalworking project. --Eyrian 19:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The link (project page) is working now for me, though at the time of my first post, it wasn't. Kyle Thomas 07:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I would argue the statement that a goldsmiths commonly made items would include: flatware, platters, goblets, decorative and serviceable utensils. If you took a poll of 1'000 "Goldsmiths", and asked if their skills include flatware, platters, goblets, decorative and serviceable utensils, I'd be suprised if you got more than one or two responding yes, if even that many. These skills, for a "goldsmith", would be the exception, without a doubt! Clearly these skills would fall under what used to be called "silversmithing", though nowdays handmade flatware, platters, goblets, decorative and serviceable utensils is a lost art. Most of theses items, though possibly requiring some hand assembly and finishing processes are now mostly machine stamped and fabricated. Kyle Thomas 08:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

This article covers a whole, if vaguely defined, historical period. Goldsmithing included silversmithing (as well as jewellery) in most places during the middle ages & even after. But yes the article is pretty crap & if you can please improve it - if you are mainly covering current practises then just stick a section in called "modern goldsmithing" or something. Johnbod 16:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

The section on "The Modern Goldsmith" is factually incorrect throughout, does not have a NPOV, and does not belong in a wiki article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.133.123 (talk) 03:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

How is it factually incorrect? Elaborate, please. In rereading the passage I see nothing that is not completely factual. I see nothing that is not neutral. That is the work of the goldsmith, that is the purpose of the wiki, to describe that. I don't get it.....Explain, please. Jjdon (talk) 21:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, unless more cogent reasoning is added the tag should be removed - was the editors first contribution (of 4 to date) Johnbod (talk) 22:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm very proud of this writing - proud mostly because I took pains to be factual and NPOV to begin with. My feeling is that 74.12.133.123 wandered through and dumped on it without any real cause. I propose giving the tag one month from it's insertion to permit 74.12.133.123 time to elaborate and delete it if they haven't in that time. I have no objection to good editing by others, but this isn't that.Jjdon (talk) 18:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I wish to thank 74.12.133.123 as his tagging this page, and a few other experiences in WP, have set me off on a tag cleanup crusade, which has a huge backlog and can be accesses here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:NPOV_disputes, if anyone else is inclined to help. So:

This is about tag cleanup. As all of the tags are more than a year old, there is no current discussion relating to them, and there is a great deal of editing done since the tags were placed, or perhaps there is a consensus on the discussion page, they will be removed. This is not a judgement of content. If there is cause to re-tag, then that of course may be done, with the necessary posting of a discussion as to why, and what improvements could be made. Do not undo this edit, but put a new tag and new comments so it will have a current date. This is only an effort to clean out old tags, and permit them to be updated with current issues if warranted. No discussion, no tag.Jjdon (talk) 22:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)