Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking

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Metalworking is a broad subject, consisting of many different tools, techniques, materials, and theories. The goal of this project is to organize this information into a consistent, easy to use collection of articles, with minimal duplication.

All are encouraged to contribute to articles as much as possible, including to this wikiproject page.

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[edit] Related projects

Woodworking WikiProject
Wikipedia:WikiProject Gemology and Jewelry
Wikipedia:WikiProject Gemology and Jewelry/Jewelry - metallurgy and manufacturing relevant page

[edit] How to help

Contribute and help out where and when you can by:

  • adding some feedback
  • spreading the word
  • putting the Wikiproject notice on related talk pages
  • submitting an article request to articles that should exist but don't
  • finding and categorizing a lost metalworking page
  • adopting a stub
  • starting or editing an article
  • monitoring articles by putting them on your watchlist and reverting any nonsense (especially spam)
  • restart the wikiproject if it has stalled

All of this can involve a little, or a lot of time - the choice is yours.

If being a contributor sounds like too much, then ease into it by adding your name as a project supporter.

[edit] Problems

Please, feel free to update or correct this list!

As of the start of this project, there seem to be a number of obvious problems:

  • A lack of some important articles (or, at least, they haven't been found yet), such as different types of milling machines and techniques.
  • A lack of a main page; metalworking is just a very incomplete list of articles.
  • A lack of coherence between pages. Pages have random layouts and vastly differing organization and language, and terminology differs between pages with no explanation.
  • A lack of internal links. Many pages are minimally linked to, and some are not linked to at all. The main index page is woefully incomplete - there are many, many articles not included and it desperately needs updating. I'd do it myself, but I don't know how - maybe I'm not advanced enough, which is ok.Jjdon (talk) 22:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Redundancy and (often conflicting) duplication. Partly due to the difficulty finding pages, some topics are covered on two or more pages, and often those pages disagree.
  • A lack of a consistent organization system or navigation between articles. No grouping of articles is performed other than what's implied by the internal links in the article text.
  • Darrensavery appears to be adding advertising links to a few articles. I'm not removing them outright, as the webpages have some information, though they're clearly commerical webpages pushing a product line.
  • Many articles need references to establish their content as verifiable.
  • A lack of articles explaining how to do it at home with very simple or cheap tools.

[edit] To-do list

Again, please update or correct this list! Last edited by --Meawoppl 00:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Some things that need to be done:

  • Create a better to-do list.
  • Create a better project page, possibly one in which I don't talk in the first person for the whole thing.
  • Get Drill bit up to Featured List Status (95% there!).
  • Work on merging duplicates. (for example, endmill might be merged into milling cutter).
  • Figure out what articles are missing and need to be written, and post an articles-to-write to-do list somewhere.
  • Work on internal links between articles.
  • Create a main metalworking page that provides a glossy introduction to the subject
  • Start writing articles on the to-be-written list
  • Create a plan on possibly organizing a woodworking, fasteners, materials science, or other projects. Preferably in a fashion that won't involve any of the original people working on this project, as we'll all be burnt out and never want to sort another article into another category ever again.
  • Create a "Metalworking History" page which discusses the history mentioning primitive tools and techniques
  • Cleanup the {Metalworking - Metalworking Smiths} template, which mixes up tools & trades.

[edit] Proposed list of categories

This list has been moved to the article list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking/Article list. Bushytails 23:49, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Current activities

(That we know about, add yours here)

  • Working on Die (manufacturing). Will need help with copy editing as project progresses.I already forgot 08:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
  • As requested, gear cutting. Might add some CNC stuff later. As not requested, jig grinder. Because I like jig grinders. Grindy. Also, way expanded the article on bandsaws. Updated milling machine with a section on subtypes of mills. Updated screw machine with information on automatic chuckers and rotary transfers. - Toastydeath 03:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles

[edit] List of articles needing attention

The big article list can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking/Article list -- PLEASE add any articles you find/create to the list!

Articles needing work:

I posted a note on the discussion page for "forge" to the effect that I would be making changes to this end soon. If I have not seen any objections by mid next week I'll start the edits. Erraunt 19:55, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Articles that should exist but don't

  • Several articles on milling machines. Types, number of axis, etc, etc.
  • Gear cutting seems non-existant (it exists now! - Toastydeath)... The article on hobbing machines is barely a stub.
  • trammel (engineers)
  • The article for punch presses should be broadened and or broken out into the details of progressive die stamping versus forging. It could also include details of short run punch press machines.
  • A article should exist here outlining setup of a job on a mill or CNC table; vises, sign plates, cutting methods, trade tips. Some of these topics are not even taught in college anymore.
  • A description of semiconductor dies would be helpful, possibly tying into information on sensor chips. Bob Stromberg 16:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Tin snips - straight cutting, right cutting, left cutting. Kratos15354 04:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Need an article about Smelting in a microwave
If anything, this should be added to the main article about Smelting. Userafw (talk) 18:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
  • I would like to add something on rotary and steel-rule dies, but I am not sure if I should create a new article or add to the article on Die (Manufacturing), which deals primarily with punch press dies. Please advise --Rjstrock 20:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Burnishing (metal) derrick (talk) 03:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Deburring tool derrick 04:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Indexing (motion): Created 2008-01-30. — ¾-10 20:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stubs

Metalworking stubs should be identified by {{metalworking-stub}}

Facing definition moved to turning, Grindstone (tool),

Smiths: Hardy tools, Hobbing machine, pritchel, Slack tub, Sword making, Thread pitch gauge, Trip hammer, Whitesmith, Work hardening,

Jewellery:Findings (needs images too), Goldwork, Omega chain, Wire wrap jewellery

Casting:Molding sand, See merger proposal with Green sand below.

Moved green sand to a section of molding sand. Iepeulas (talk) 00:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Wire drawing

[edit] Needing attention (wikifying etc)

Coppersmith

Spin_casting and Centrifugal_casting need to be merged

[edit] Request for deletion/comments/proposed merges/Wiktionary...

Please list here any metalworking-related articles you happen to come across that have been proposed for merge (or moves), listed for deletion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion or Wikipedia:Categories for deletion, comments on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Maths, natural science, and technology, proposed Wiktionary moves, or for that matter, any other relevant wikishuffle.

This will at least ensure they don't go un-noticed. Comment as you see fit, but please comment on each proposal.

[edit] Templates

Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking/Template list

  • Wikiproject
  • Navigation

[edit] Wikiproject notice

This article is part of WikiProject Metalworking, an attempt to cleanup, categorize and expand Wikipedia articles related to metalworking. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page or visit the project page, where a list of open tasks is maintained.


Text to use at the top of article talk pages is:-

{{Metalworking}}

Suggested Edit summary (This is here so that a quick cut and paste does the job, no stress involved):

Template for Wikiproject {{Metalworking}}

If the article is also woodworking related then add the following

{{Metalworking}}{{Woodworking}}

perhaps reorder it depending on the articles focus.

{{Woodworking}}{{Metalworking}}

Once again a suggested Cut'nPaste Edit summary:

Template for Wikiproject {{Metalworking}}{{Woodworking}}

[edit] Contributors

Add your name here! Yes, you!

  • Jjdon (talk) 02:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC) Professional fine jeweler. Gold, Platinum work, etc.
  • Bushytails - Project founder; amateur machinist; power-tool wielding wolfie.
  • Graibeard - metalworking related images for reuse, and image requests welcomed
  • Luigizanasi at the interface between woodworking and metalworking
  • Erraunt Willing to help. Part time blacksmith. Posted a few comments on blacksmithing and forge and sees the need.
  • Joe1011010 - Started to review Manufacturing - this is a worthy effort too.
  • Spangineer - working on welding topics
  • Joe I - Centrifugal casting foundry lab analyst, also in WikiProject:Numismatics if you're interested. :)
  • Mikeblas - Contributed English Wheel. Let me know how else I can help.
  • Seán - Just started.
  • Mtgarvin 21:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)Just adding a few historical notes
  • Kratos15354 - Probably adding little bits here and there to existing pages, amateur metal worker.
  • Jburstein - Engineering student. Beginning to try to deal with the unwieldy lump of writing that is drill bit.
  • Peterkingiron - Adding detail on historical aspects of metals, particularly iron - have studied the subject for many years and have doctorate in economic history.
  • ENat1 - Welding/CADD/NDT I'll help out categorizing the project a bit. I might add a few articles.
  • Iepeulas - Professional metallurgist and materials engineer. I'll be adding expertise and information to articles that fall within my area of knowledge.
  • Meawoppl -Found this project in dire need of my assistance!
  • User:Bridesmill - silversmith, wikiholic (already did some re. raising, work on jewellery, PMC)
  • User:Toastydeath - Trying to find an apprenticeship in tool and die making as we speak. I've taken an interest in odd or more uncommon machines.
  • User:Jbin - Metalsmith: mokume, goldsmithing, blacksmithing,
  • Ben FrantzDale
  • Rjstrock - Converting industry. Specialize in rotary and steel rule die cutting. Would like to contribute.
  • User:middlenamefrank - Electronics Engineer. Have extensively re-organized and updated the "Soldering" entry. Still needs some work but it's come a long ways. Please review!
  • Patris Magnus - Mechanical Engineer, Welder, Machinist, Small Foundry and Forge owner at your service.
  • Eyrian, dabbling smith and medieval armour recreationist
  • Mrak21, Engineering student.
  • User:fciron - Full time blacksmith, will be extending smithing tool stubs and adding pictures. Wiki Noob, please check my formatting.
  • ChicagoPimp - Metallurgical Engineer, will be contributing to modern tooling, processes, and applications.
  • Ollin - Delusional Californian Manual Machinist, will be looking at the articles and adding any vicera that might be worth noting.
  • MarkBolton - Engineer supporting the Casting industry, Rewrote Investment Casting
  • Panchhee - Engineering student doing some courses on manufacturing/metalworking
  • Twitching - Crafts and metalsmithing major specializing in jewelry.
  • User:Derek IvJust looking for a way to smelt easily for a hobby.
  • User:ArcTech AWS SCWI & CWE, welding consultant to International Ironworkers and US Air Force et.al. 30 yrs of industrial welding as welder/fitter on nuclear projects, QA Manager for aerospace flight parts, project manager for fossil fuel and chemical plants. Will be contributing to welding and quality.
  • Lumbercutter—Helping to work toward an eventual killer-app resource. We're always making progress toward that goal!
  • Wizard191 - Mechanical engineer. I specialize in manufacturing processes and materials (and thermodynamics, which is unrelated to this). Created Forging and completely reworked it.
  • DerrickOswald - Electrical engineer and amateur machinist.
  • Pushkraj.janwadkar - CEO & Director R&D, Contribution on Sand casting technology.

[edit] Project supporters

[edit] Notes

This page sounds excessively bureaucratic. this should be fixed.

Boy, i'd like to join, but I can only work cranks and levers. Will someone please give me a nice easy link?

Where can I find info related to most appropriate steel to use for Cutting Blades -ie High Speed cutting of plastic to length. Current problem is that M2 wears out at the cutting edge much faster than competitions blades. What steel can they be using??? - DAN

If it's HSS, it's probably T15. If I'm recalling my alloys correctly, that's pretty much the top dog insofar as HSS goes. If you want go even faster, use a carbide blade. One of the ISO P grades should work, like P6 or something thereabouts in the middle. - Toastydeath 17:46, 29 May 2007 (UTC)