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Contents 1 Taste 2 Boodles Gin 3 Possible fact dispute 4 Defunct 4.1 Mother's Ruin 4.2 Questions from editing 4.3 Fruit or Grain or both? 4.4 History questions not answered in article

[edit] Taste

"Jenever is produced in a pot still and is typically lower in alcohol and more strongly flavoured than London gin." Not in my experience! I would say exactly the opposite: Gin is far more strongly flavoured. Anyone want to defend this statement? Pemboid

[edit] Boodles Gin

Does anyone know who makes Boodles Gin?

• This article on Forbes dated 3/14/2006 lists Joseph E. Seagram & Sons as the maker.
• This site indicates that Joseph E. Seagram & Sons was owned by Vivendi Universal, who owned The Seagram Company Ltd. who made Boodles British Gin.
• The Wikipedia article on Seagram states that it no longer exists, and it's assets were sold to companies like Pepsico, Diageo, and Pernod Ricard. However, I see no mention of Boodles Gin on any of their websites.

Any ideas??

• • A mystery! I can certainly still get Boodles gin at my local Bevmo, at a darn good price, too! $15 for 75cl. Boodles & bitter lemon is one of the finest combinations I have had the pleasure of imbibing...Cravenmonket 02:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Jefflundberg 22:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Update:

• A page on the Pernod Ricard site describes Boodles Gin.
  • It states: Produced by: Chivas Brothers for Pernod Ricard USA.

Jefflundberg 22:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Update:

• I created an article on Boodles based on the information I have gathered. I just recently took a picture of the bottle () and added it to the article as well.

Jefflundberg 02:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible fact dispute

From article: "Gin originated in the Netherlands in the 17th century - its invention is often credited to the physician Franciscus Sylvius."

According to their website, Damrak has been produced since 1575, which would seem to contradict the assertion Gin originated in the 17th century. <http://www.damrakgin.com>

A second website (which seems to be a longer version of Damrak's own description) repeats this information, asserting that Gin was marketed as a medicine prior to 1575. <http://www.internetwines.com/rws25214.html>

The Gin and Vodka association notes that the early 17th century is the "first confirmed date for the production of gin." <http://www.ginvodka.org/history/origingin.html>

[edit] Defunct

Anybody think a list of famous defunct brands is a good idea? Like, say, Bushmill's? (Or did John D. MacDonald make it up...?) Trekphiler 03:32, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mother's Ruin

Is there any special reason why this one synonym is mentioned so prominently? Many beverages have analagous nicknames, and to be truthful, I've never even heard this one.

You would have heard it in British English, it is a term which has been used in the UK for a century or so. Dieter Simon 00:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questions from editing

• After Old Tom gin, segment "said to approximate the pot-distilled 18th century spirit." -- is this just Old Tom or also Plymouth and Genever? I've never heard this before.Philvarner 00:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• "By 1740 the production of gin had increased to six times that of beer, and because of its cheapness it became extremely popular with the poor." -- is this by volume or ABV?

[edit] Fruit or Grain or both?

The Template:Alcoholic beverages lists Gin with distilled alcohols made with fruit, but it could just as well fit with those made with grains. Any suggestions? - TheMightyQuill 02:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

this template needs a lot of revision. For example, there are only 2 vodkas currently produced with potatoes. The categories are not orthogonal, for example, brandy is distilled from fruit, but sambuca is flavored with anise rather than distilled from it. I wouldn't even bother changing it, there will probably be a major revision sometime soon. Philvarner 05:11, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History questions not answered in article

• Was it created for medicinal purposes?

• If so, what maladies were the juniper and other herbs supposed to cure, or was it just meant as a rejuvenating tonic?

• What was the original recipe, and what were the other herbs, if any, besides juniper berries, in the first formulation?

• Was it originally meant to be drunk "straight," or mixed into other liquids? Badagnani 05:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The Jenever article seems to answer some of this. Badagnani 09:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)