Talk:German battleship Tirpitz

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On July 5th, 1942 the Russian submarine K-21 located the German escort of Operation Rösselsprung and claimed to have hit Tirpitz with two torpesdoes. However, the ship's war logs report no such incident, and she reportedly wasn't damaged. One Russian theory dictates that the Tirpitz was indeed damaged, but was quietly brought in to berth and repared to avoid the Führer's wrath. This seems somewhat far-fetched, however.

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[edit] General Characteristics

There seems to be some confusion over the units and notation. For example "Length: 253,6 m overall". Shouldn't this read "2,536 m" (two kilometers long) or should it read "253.6 m"? There are similar problems else where, for example speed is given as "30,8 knots" rather than "30.8". Curioulsy the crews complement is listed as "2.608,", in other words just over two and a half men! But others areas appear correct such as "3 three-blade propellers, 4.70 m ". This needs sortign out as the article looses credibility. --ManInStone 10:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The continental system has now bene changed to the English notation. GraemeLeggett 11:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

FYI, German switches the . and the , like 203,8 (203.8) and 2.123.234 (2,123,234) Cyborg999 21:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyborg999 (talk • contribs)

[edit] german navy flag

the picture needs to be decreased in size, it's quality is WAY to low for it to be displayed at that size.

[edit] British attempts to sink Tirpitz

I have added descriptions (some minor) of various attacks on the Tirpitz. It arguable that these should be described individually in separate articles. Could do this, but some are very minor and being together they show the progression and linkage between the attempts. Or should I expand the major ones into articles? Folks at 137 17:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dimensions?

Stated dimensions are: 251m x 36m x 8.7m

251m is length, 36m is probably height, and 8.7 - width?

Judgin by this picture, the width should be at least 4 times that.

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/germany/battleships/tirpitz/22_kaafjord_mar_1943.jpg

Please verify.

36 m is width, 8.7m is draft. But draft should be 10m or more, see Bismarch article for data. --Denniss 18:08, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
This site [1] has these dimensions:
Length (Total): 251,0 m
Length (Waterline):241,6 m
Beam: 36,0 m
Draft: 10,6 m
This site [2] gives 9.9m for "designed draft" and 10.61m as "maximum draft", and compares Bismarck & Tirpitz.
Hope this helps. Folks at 137 19:29, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Largest?

This:-
"She is also the biggest warship ever built in Europe"
Has been changed and reverted a couple of times; whats the thinking, here?
She was one of a pair, so there can't be much in it; and I thought the Hood and the Littorio's were about the same size, and that Vanguard was bigger (though that page says 48,000 tons, which seems too big). Any thoughts? Xyl 54 17:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

48,000 t is probably the full load displacement of Vanguard she is described as marginally heavier than Hood but Hood was longer. GraemeLeggett 20:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I've checked Conway for this; unhelpfully, they don't give a standard displacement for Hood, but full load was 48,360t in 1940; Littorio was 40,724t standard, 45,236t full load. So they're a bit smaller. Vanguard was 44,500t standard, 51,429t full load; so, make of that what you will. A bit bigger when empty, a bit smaller when full. (Conway gives the same displacements as this page for Tirpitz). Xyl 54 (talk) 16:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rosselsprung

I've re-written this section;
This : “On 4 July 1942 Tirpitz and her escorts left port to sail to a new base.” Is misleading;
And this : “but due to the efficiency of the U-boats and aircraft in dealing with the convoy the sortie was aborted” is plain wrong.
So I’ve corrected it.
(There is a discussion here if anyone is interested).
Xyl 54 (talk) 13:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CN tag.

I've removed the general CN tag. I don't think it applies as a whole to the article. I may add individual tags as are required. Protonk (talk) 05:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. Referencing and appropriate inline citation guidelines not met. With proper referencing and inline citations, this article would easily qualify as B class. --dashiellx (talk) 14:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)